The US Constitution: What's the Point Anymore?

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Originally Posted by RoleTroll

I'd support an amendment saying that no law passed by a majority of both houses of congress and signed by the president can be found unconstitutional. But there's no prospect of passing it. It might be just one amendment but the votes aren't there. A lot of people like having judges sit over us like a superlegislature.

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Didn't we try this with abortion already? Also with terror suspects in Guantanamo. But the judges said, oh wait, we can review this cause the constitution said so.

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Originally Posted by Spent

There was a real grumpy German and a few wily Japs about 70 years ago who forced your hands to declare war - since then... not so much.

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LOL.

Don't forget about 60 years ago ... The Korean War(Conflict).

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Originally Posted by Spent

There was a real grumpy German and a few wily Japs about 70 years ago who forced your hands to declare war - since then... not so much.

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The president to my knowledge has never/can't declare(d) war. Congress does that. The Pres can send troops whereever and fight here or there but unless Congress declares war it's a conflict. So we get things that very much resemble wars w/o them being true "wars". WWI and II were both declared wars by congress if memory serves. Korea, Vietnam, Desert Shield etc. were/are not. Unless some one can prove otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Bojack

The Pres can send troops whereever and fight here or there but unless Congress declares war it's a conflict. So we get things that very much resemble wars w/o them being true "wars".

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Right. It would be like if I could cut somebody's head off and then not go to jail as long as I called the act a "blade workout" instead of "murder".

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Originally Posted by Advocate

LOL.

Don't forget about 60 years ago ... The Korean War(Conflict).

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This wasn't an actual declaration of war though, was it? It was a "police action."

They can draft without a declaration of war? Crazy!

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Originally Posted by Melf

This wasn't an actual declaration of war though, was it? It was a "police action."

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That's why I have in parentheses Conflict. Wiki stated that it is considered a war, but its also considered a police action.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

The declaration of war is meaningless really. Congress is supposed to have that power but really their only control is whether or not to fund the action. Which is congress' real power anyway. If they ever decided to defund anything other than a social program. Lucky for them, the poor and uneducated don't vote.