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Human perception of life has been changing a lot in the past 100 years. The first huge change was the idea of nationalism.
Really? "Human perception of life" is already an amorhpous concept, so to claim that the first huge change (of many in the last 100 years, I assume) is the idea of nationalsim needs some context. I am curious, for the sake of this discussion, what the second and third are.
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You might date this as far back as the French Revolution (I'm not saying this in reference to the first sentence, so don't try to be clever and point out the time difference) when the french people viewed themselves as "french" and not the king subjects as the king viewed them.
I trust no attempts at being clever are being made at all.
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Technology increased this view point more and more and it culminated in WW1 and was perfected in WW2.
So broad. Advances in transportation, communication, medicine, science...just like, the culmination of all technology? What technology was perfected in WW2?
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Because of technology, people were able to get a very good idea of what it "meant" to be a member of their community, state, country, whatever.
Well, you probably need to expand on this idea of the "meaning" of being in whatever particular group you're discussing. I get the feeling people had some pretty strong group affiliations and perceptions of "other" before WW2, with all the wars, conquest, exploration, trade, invention, religion...you know, human history.
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This view point was not possible a thousand years before where "neighbors" were the people living around you and NOT everyone kind of like you that shared a lot of traits with you. A thousand years prior it was more an issue of distance and geography, maybe language. Around ww1 and ww2 it became more an issue of "culture."
So you're saying that today (starting around WW1/2), our neighbors, on an international level, are those that share more cultural traits with us, versus those of close geographic proximity? That culture wasn't an issue (or less even), as far as distinguishing one group from another, before WW2?
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Things have continued to change, and noticeably so, in our life time.
Sure. I'm sure the neanderthals noticed changes too, but advancements in technology come more rapidly and we tend to document things better nowadays.
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I'm sure most have you have noticed how polarized people are in the industrial world. How people compromise less, people are more extreme in their opinions, and etc. We are growing apart.
Who are you speaking for here? The "industrial world" represents a lot of different cultures. People compromise less? -in terms of what? You can't support a blanket statement like that just across the United States, let alone the entire world. ...more extreme in their opinions? Do you mean people as national entities (what you were talking about earlier), or just people in general? Maybe some examples would help give us an idea of your frame of reference.
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We already see some of it (targeted marketing).
I doubt anyone would disagree that this occurs now, and will continue to do so. I think the idea that mass media will become so hyper-specialized that people will fundamentally live in bubbles of their own influence is far-fetched. People are inherently social creatures.
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And it is also interesting to think about how the generations under us view privacy.
Is it? Let's see:
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How they think nothing about sharing their wholes lives online. How they don't understand why us "old" people make such a big deal about the government and companies logging information about us.
Does this happen? For some, perhaps, but it's just another blanket statement with no parameters and no supporting information. Are we still talking about the entire industrialized world anymore, or the dumb teenagers at the mall?
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How long will it be before some of our freedoms fly out the window because those younger than us perceive them from a fundamentally different perspective than we do?
This could be legitimately interesting, but it would be better if you cited specific rights that you think could be threatened or altered by new social patterns.
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So, what are your thoughts on this? I've given a few examples, but I'm sure there are others.
Actually, I think some examples are needed. Also, an idea of why this discussion is important or at least interesting.
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How does it make you feel to know that you lived a brief moment of human development that no other generation before us or after us will experience? That there will never be another "80s?"
That's like asking, how does it make you feel to exist? Some contextual parameters are needed.
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That no generation will know what it was like to have that level of privacy and tech development at the same time?
Speculative (even with the ambiguous terminology). How do you know there won't be even greater privacy at a time of even greater technological advancement? Perhaps civilization crumbles and rebuilds itself to almost the exact same level of "privacy and tech development". Who's to say another culture today won't at some point have the same formula of privacy and tech (again, whatever that means)?
I think people here have a problem discussing these things because there's no framework for discussion to take place.
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That in the future people are going to die because of battles fought over outlooks born as a consequence of new technology. That people are going to believe strongly in shit, and die for it, and these ideals are things we can't even dream of or understand because the technology hasn't been made yet and impacted us.
It's just too broad of an idea to bother speculating on, at least on the intellectual level you seem to be craving. As is, it's an issue of X-men.
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