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People don't want to admit it, but we essentially loaned destroyed nations a tremendous amount of money, and then they invested it into American industry by buying our goods to rebuild with. That is why we were the world's largest and most powerful economy in the 60s and 70s. And after rebuilding Germany and Japan, they became two of the world's most advanced industrial countries. They are as advanced or more advanced than we are.
and to think all of that came out of a little bit of kindness (loaning them money, helping them rebuild, not treating them like dogs)
I'm a bit conservative, but is striking the difference in the two outcomes of how the world treated germany. When they were treated like dogs and expected to pick themselves up by the bootstraps and pay the world back for their evil in WW1, they formed into an even darker nation. But when given a chance, and resources, they became one of the richest countries in Europe.
Something to think about.
But that is a topic for another thread. There is an absurd amount of things that can be learned about life through ww2.
Anyway, this shit in japan sucks. I need to look into some way of sending money or something. I know it is kind of faggy, but japan does seem kind of closer to us (or at least me) than a lot of other countries. Japan may have a dozen things wrong with it I don't like, but it is still a country I grew up with. It wasn't French cartoons or Swiss toys in my house. It was American stuff and Japanese stuff. I had Japanese transformers, and watched Japanese shows. My mom took me to school in a green Subaru. The Yamaha stereo I grew up with was made in japan. And some of my fav guitar gear is Japanese made.
It really sucks what has happened. =/
if any of you guys know a place online worth a shit to give money to for aid, post it in this thread.
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We probably helped the countries we claim to not like more than the ones we do "like." England would have probably survived had we never entered the war. But Russia would have probably taken Germany and everything Germany was in control of. And we were much kinder to Germany than the Russians were. They'd been happy destroying the entire country, raping all their women, and taking every bit of industry. There would have been no reconstruction and all the people we pardoned to build Germany back up, would have been shot and hanged.
We were pretty harsh to the Germans. We bombed some cities into nothing. Some towns had as much as 80-90% destruction rates from our bombing. But the Russians were out for medieval level revenge.
EDIT: It should also me noted that England helped us get out of our own depression. They took out a loan for about 1 trillion pounds to buy supplies and do reconstruction work after the war. They borrowed so much money and random shit that they did not pay us back until 2006 or so.
Another way to look at it is ... we bombed Japan with two nukes. What did we do after? Helped rebuild the country, provided industry for them to grow, and made them for a time in the 80's an economic power with funding. Today they are not the great economic power like they were, due to debt.
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Different motivations. American news wants to put on a show to entertain us and make us all happy we live in the US where bad things never happen.
The japanese news wants to play everything down to limit people freaking out.
Its like two spoiled kids living together and one broke something expensive. The spoiled asshole who did nothing can't wait to rat the other one out to make himself look good while the spoiled kid that fucked up is going to down play what he did as much as possible.
'Cheeks pretty much nailed it. American media wants a TV show. The Japanese news wants calm. The thing is from all non-biased reports the radiation is bad, but not OMG CHERNOBYL 2. Truth be told the radiation was bad enough for four US carriers to move 20 miles off shore yesterday.
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People don't want to admit it, but we essentially loaned destroyed nations a tremendous amount of money, and then they invested it into American industry by buying our goods to rebuild with. That is why we were the world's largest and most powerful economy in the 60s and 70s. And after rebuilding Germany and Japan, they became two of the world's most advanced industrial countries. They are as advanced or more advanced than we are.
and to think all of that came out of a little bit of kindness (loaning them money, helping them rebuild, not treating them like dogs)
I'm a bit conservative, but is striking the difference in the two outcomes of how the world treated germany. When they were treated like dogs and expected to pick themselves up by the bootstraps and pay the world back for their evil in WW1, they formed into an even darker nation. But when given a chance, and resources, they became one of the richest countries in Europe.
Something to think about.
But that is a topic for another thread. There is an absurd amount of things that can be learned about life through ww2.
'Cheeks really hit it on the head again.
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Anyway, this shit in japan sucks. I need to look into some way of sending money or something. I know it is kind of faggy, but japan does seem kind of closer to us (or at least me) than a lot of other countries. Japan may have a dozen things wrong with it I don't like, but it is still a country I grew up with. It wasn't French cartoons or Swiss toys in my house. It was American stuff and Japanese stuff. I had Japanese transformers, and watched Japanese shows. My mom took me to school in a green Subaru. The Yamaha stereo I grew up with was made in japan. And some of my fav guitar gear is Japanese made.
It really sucks what has happened. =/
if any of you guys know a place online worth a shit to give money to for aid, post it in this thread.
I would like to donate as well.
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I'm not donating. Japan is a rich nation and they will take care of themselves. Besides, all these relief agencies always end up with more money than they know what to do with. This is true when poor ass countries like Sri Lanka and Haiti get fucked over, it will be doubly true of Japan.
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She took down her account :(
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Before and After Satellite Photos
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Text REDCROSS to 90999 to donate $10 to relief efforts.
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Those are already in this thread.
From two different locations.
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Explanation of what? She was making troll videos and this one was too big and the backlash went from a few dozen people to hundreds of thousands of people and she couldn't take the heat so she bowed out.
She even says in that video she's sick of pizza, which is because 4chan sent her hundreds.
