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Emma Stone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisco Bold
Bigger nose.
Edit: Though, she's got the mannerisms and voice down.
After watching all her videos you can find a few places here and there where she kind of drops the ball and you can tell she's being completely satirical.
Really though, if you have to watch like an hour of shit to find 30 seconds where you can tell for sure she's joking, that's pretty fucking impressive.
Long, but definitely worth watching from beginning to end. It's like a Katamari game from hell.
I read somewhere that the quake upset the Earth's position on its axis such days are now 1.6 milliseconds shorter. This shit is beyond imagination.
I didn't know that GG was the duck.
SimCity is clearly in fuck you mode for Japan.
The place is eight feet closer to the east now.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Robot Bit Me
She said "lentil season" in the first video. It doesn't take a lot of discernment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
Apparently some of the reactors have already begun to meltdown and the Japanese government is trying to avert an all-out panic (says CNN and CBC in Canada). Interesting. The CBC reporter basically hung up mid-conversation to drive down to catch a flight and get the hell out of there. I wonder how far the radiation will spread if the plants go?
Would have been better if the jokes were actually funny and not just meant to shock. I should give him a few tips on writing zingers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisco Bold
My family and I are fine for now. Many foreigners have fled the city for Western Japan or other countries as some European and Australian embassies have told their non-essential citizens to GTFO.
The day of the quake was quite surreal. Running from table to table, hiding in parking structure entrances while avoidning any potential powerlines which could come down to climbing 22 floors to get to my condo only to see Odaiba burning and Sendai airport underwater. Seriously, this is right out of Irem's Zettai Zetsumei Toshi series.
Most of my home was fine except for the cheap ass Ikea shelves I used to house my collection. I haven't gone through all of my stuff but about 20 items (half of them LEs) are damaged including a Bio Freaks prototype PCB (yes, LOlz).
We looked at flights to leave the country but they are averaging $4000 USD a person for California. We may evacuate to Osaka when the radiation becomes worse.
Pics below of what it looked like when I walked in the door:
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg615/sca...=640&ysize=640
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg616/sca...=640&ysize=640
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/sca...=640&ysize=640
Here's what it looked like after some cleanup:
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg615/sca...=640&ysize=640
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg611/sca...=640&ysize=640
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg618/sca...=640&ysize=640
We probably helped the countries we claim to not like more than the ones we do "like." England would have probably survived had we never entered the war. But Russia would have probably taken Germany and everything Germany was in control of. And we were much kinder to Germany than the Russians were. They'd been happy destroying the entire country, raping all their women, and taking every bit of industry. There would have been no reconstruction and all the people we pardoned to build Germany back up, would have been shot and hanged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
We were pretty harsh to the Germans. We bombed some cities into nothing. Some towns had as much as 80-90% destruction rates from our bombing. But the Russians were out for medieval level revenge.
EDIT: It should also me noted that England helped us get out of our own depression. They took out a loan for about 1 trillion pounds to buy supplies and do reconstruction work after the war. They borrowed so much money and random shit that they did not pay us back until 2006 or so.
It's more like "You'd be speaking Russian if it wasn't for us."Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
So talk to me about this, what are you hearing where you live? What exactly are they telling you is happening in regards to radiation and how concerned you need to be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shou
Damn. You had such a nice set up there. At least you're alright and everything is high and dry, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shou
I love the way the media is like TOKYO HAS 20 TIMES THE NORMAL LEVELS OF RADIATION! But some fail to explain that's basically 20 times nothing, which is still nothing, FAR less than what you would get flying in an airplane or having an xray taken.
Different motivations. American news wants to put on a show to entertain us and make us all happy we live in the US where bad things never happen.
The japanese news wants to play everything down to limit people freaking out.
Its like two spoiled kids living together and one broke something expensive. The spoiled asshole who did nothing can't wait to rat the other one out to make himself look good while the spoiled kid that fucked up is going to down play what he did as much as possible.
I doubt it's anything so sinister.
This is all correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
People don't want to admit it, but we essentially loaned destroyed nations a tremendous amount of money, and then they invested it into American industry by buying our goods to rebuild with. That is why we were the world's largest and most powerful economy in the 60s and 70s. And after rebuilding Germany and Japan, they became two of the world's most advanced industrial countries. They are as advanced or more advanced than we are.
and to think all of that came out of a little bit of kindness (loaning them money, helping them rebuild, not treating them like dogs)
I'm a bit conservative, but is striking the difference in the two outcomes of how the world treated germany. When they were treated like dogs and expected to pick themselves up by the bootstraps and pay the world back for their evil in WW1, they formed into an even darker nation. But when given a chance, and resources, they became one of the richest countries in Europe.
Something to think about.
But that is a topic for another thread. There is an absurd amount of things that can be learned about life through ww2.
Anyway, this shit in japan sucks. I need to look into some way of sending money or something. I know it is kind of faggy, but japan does seem kind of closer to us (or at least me) than a lot of other countries. Japan may have a dozen things wrong with it I don't like, but it is still a country I grew up with. It wasn't French cartoons or Swiss toys in my house. It was American stuff and Japanese stuff. I had Japanese transformers, and watched Japanese shows. My mom took me to school in a green Subaru. The Yamaha stereo I grew up with was made in japan. And some of my fav guitar gear is Japanese made.
It really sucks what has happened. =/
if any of you guys know a place online worth a shit to give money to for aid, post it in this thread.
Another way to look at it is ... we bombed Japan with two nukes. What did we do after? Helped rebuild the country, provided industry for them to grow, and made them for a time in the 80's an economic power with funding. Today they are not the great economic power like they were, due to debt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
'Cheeks pretty much nailed it. American media wants a TV show. The Japanese news wants calm. The thing is from all non-biased reports the radiation is bad, but not OMG CHERNOBYL 2. Truth be told the radiation was bad enough for four US carriers to move 20 miles off shore yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
'Cheeks really hit it on the head again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
I would like to donate as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
I'm not donating. Japan is a rich nation and they will take care of themselves. Besides, all these relief agencies always end up with more money than they know what to do with. This is true when poor ass countries like Sri Lanka and Haiti get fucked over, it will be doubly true of Japan.
She took down her account :(Quote:
Originally Posted by BonusKun
Text REDCROSS to 90999 to donate $10 to relief efforts.
Those are already in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type Ryan
From two different locations.
Someone already reposted it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP-sSeqPywI
And here is her coming clean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBZMCtIXjIA&NR=1
So... no explanation?
Explanation of what? She was making troll videos and this one was too big and the backlash went from a few dozen people to hundreds of thousands of people and she couldn't take the heat so she bowed out.
She even says in that video she's sick of pizza, which is because 4chan sent her hundreds.
I'd put it in her butt.
The troll was a lie?
http://i51.tinypic.com/28kmx76.jpg
Fuck that's depressing.
I hope it drowns.
Way too early. Then again, quakes are something you don't joke about. That's one hell of a nice way to put the twit in TWITter, Gilbert.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisco Bold
You joke about anything you want.
Humor is what separates us from other thinking creatures.
If you take that away from us what's left?
Gilbert Gottfried.
That's it for the comedy stylings of icarusfall and Opaque.
We'll be here all week folks!
Do not want.
Peeing in the sink?Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
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Originally Posted by Iago
I think that's something we could easily share with other animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by cigsthecat
A friend of mine just sat in on the MIT debrief about the nuclear situation in Japan right now and she's gonna email me the notes, I'll post them here as soon as I get them for those of you who are interested in what real scientists have to say about this.
Call PaCrappa! This science is about to get REAL!
I hope he weighs in on it.
What am I saying, he probably gave the presentation.
Nah... Tuesdays he is busy with your mom.
He dropped by the house and didn't even say hi? How rude.
and he values that time, as your mom is a very busy lady.
She's never too busy to say hi.
What's his excuse?
Once you censor comedy you may as well kill yourself.
Explanation as to why? What's the point? Seems like a waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
Some people just joke about bad shit. That is how they cope.
I made jokes within the hour of finding out about 9.11. Do you think I hated everyone in those buildings that died?
She called it performance art, maybe she just wanted to practice acting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisco Bold
Odds are it was for the lulz.
Eh. Either way, glad it's fake because now I don't feel so bad about finding her attractive in that one angle on that one video.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
Basically, the government officials and my own firm are saying that we're safe but no one is believing them since TEPCO, who owns the plants, has covered up a number of nuclear plant incidents in the past. In my company, 33% of people have fled the city.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
These are the notes from the MIT brief. Keep in mind, they're literally notes she was taking on a laptop, so things could potentially be missing or slightly inaccurate. That being said, it's still probably better than everything you've read in papers or seen on the news.
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BWR (Boiling Water Reactor) Description
* Boiling reactors in japan but 2/3 of ours in the US are pressure reactors so they are structurally and functionally different
* Fukushima daiichi has six reactors - from first vintage of reactors commercially available
* Mk1 500-800 megawatts in reactors 1-5, reactor 6 can go up to 1100 megawatts
* Was scheduled to be shut down this month
* 1/6 of water in core heated and converted to steam and then goes to power the turbine. Then condensed and returnee to upper portion joining the recirculating water.
* Secondary cooling structure can be powered by the grid or generators.
Timeline of Events
* Reactors 1-3 shut down automatically when earthquake hit, cut off from the grid. 4-6 down for routine maintenance.
* Tsunami hit and took out power from generators. Reactions not still occuring but remaining heat still needing to be dissipated.
* Reactor 2 generator kept working but 1 and 3 were not. Coolant boils away and uncovers fuel rods. Then produce hydrogen.
* Reactor pressure from 1 released on sat resulting in small radioactive emission.
* Sunday - unit 1 declared INES level 4 accident. Borated sea water eventually used to flood the containment. Explosion
* Mon- hydrogen explosion of unit3- fuel rods exposed in unit 2 and seawater injected. Faulty valves results in fuel rods being exposed again.
* Tues - reactor 2 explosion, this time with containment. Pressure suppression system damaged. Plant worker evacuations begin due to radiation levels.
* Reactor building 4 on fire (it's ok for water to boil as long as the rods aren't uncovered). Injecting water.
Situations and Surroundings
* Tsunami taking out power but also flooding switchgear connections - means can't just hook up new generators that are brougt in. The key is restoring power.
* Mountains behind coastal plains at site, westerly blowing winds are good to carry the radiation out to sea rather than into population centers.
* Evacuation policy in effect: People between 20-30km are free to leave but have been encouraged to just stay home and indoors, keeping air from outside out (AC instead of windows). Inside 20km radius evacuated.
* Barriers to protect against waves were 2m high, topped by tsunami.
* Number 2 site (this is all at Fukushima 1) - we've been told there is some damage but haven't heard anything about the four reactors there specifically.
Q&A
Some sort of a steam-driven core coolant process that exists but
didn't kick in?
It's possible that the connections that bring the steam
to the turbine may have been disrupted by quake or tsunami but hasn't
been explained. Aldo only 2 of he 6 reactors have it. 3rd back up exists-
batteries- only last a few hours.
In 24 hrs after shutdown how long was the power out?
We don't know.
Off grid since quake but local power and ability to connect to it
probably since tsunami hit. Within about an hour of quake, then
initial cooling wasn't from inflow, it was from existing water boiling
off.
What is the 'primary containment' they are pumping water into?
In the
vessel as well as in the containment. If can bring down boiling, steam
will condense and reduce the pressure.
Salt water damage to primary cooling system?
They are gone, completely
written off. Will definitely create a degradation environmnent and
will probably last only a few weeks before more damage to the strucure.
Worst case scenario?
Already have damaged fuel in reactors, there is a
possibility of release if the system isn't cooled. Loss of water for
long period of time instead of short could result in melting of core.
Not likely we will see explosion that in any way compares to the
Russian reactor explosion. But release of significant radiation is
possible iodine and other chemicals.
Contamination levels are actually very low - no evidence of any health
impacts. Dose rates they were experiencing in Tokyo would have to be
endured for a few days would equal a simple chest x Ray.
Reports coming out are inconsistent about what the levels are -
offsite in populated areas it's very safe. One worker recieved about
10 rem which is twice the annual permissible for work. That amount
would raise a normal persons risk for cancer from 25% to about 25.3
over course of his life and that is much more exposure than civilians have
reported.
Depends on some chemicals are volatile and some are not - volatile
ones can be carried in the air while the others cannot.
Status of numerical simulation tools to replicate connection issues,
etc in Japan?
Have increased with use and become more acchrate but not
very useful in this case bc we don't know the right input to the tools
to use them - acceleration of quake etc. Output is good IF confident
in input. Risk assessment models have been used but some earthquakes
are so strong you can't really defend against them. Like this one.
It's a very rare event - last one his big in japan was about 1200
years ago. But remember tsunami was he bigger damager than quake - a
vulnerability that us recognized.
So why built by ocean?
Thy were built by the sea with tsunami walls
instead of up a hill - not sure why.
Spent fuel pools?
All 6 reactors have some fuel in their pools with a
significant amount of fuel (this is the leftovers of already burned fuel).
The release of these fuels would seriously
increase the severity of the disaster. But not contained within the
contaiment chamber. 2 things make it easier to deal with1 harder. Fuel
pools have a lot of fuel maybe even up to 10yrs worth but produce a
lot less energy -an order of magnitude less than the cores (1 megawatt
vs 10). Can run water via a pipe directly into pools unlike core.
Public communication?
Written communications in English by Tokyo electric power are few and
sporadic. We hear that info IN Japanese might be somewhat
parsimonious. But likely that people on the ground in the plants don't
quite know what's going on yet.
If tsunami had been half an hour earlier would it be much worse
because of decay function?
Probably not because it's the integral of
the volume decay that matters
Would be surprised if it takes longer than a week or two to restore
electric power.
Advances in decay heat management?
Difficult when situation doesn't
give a continuous path for the heat to flow. If air can circulate
around the vessel then the decay heat can be removed naturally.
Hydrogen concern like at 3mi island?
Was a big concern with TMI,
venting meant pressure buildup leading to explosion. Pressurized water
reactors on 3mi island are structurally different such that venting
that was done could have led to explosion but different design means
goal of keeping containment area intact. Same amount of hydrogen would
be vastly diluted compared to pressurized reactors.
Prospects for long term contamination in the area?
Very little released
and dispersed beyond containment but if here is a larger release,
could mean permanent relocation for surrounding residents. 30 year
half life (time to decay or dissipate). If that happens, wont be able
to return until dose rates are about 2 rem per year. High levels means
it gets into water table --> food, agriculture, etc. But - we have very
little information about radiation we can live with. Existing research
generally considers dose rates given within a few minutes rather than
over time. Has not been a careful study of how much is too much to
live with.
MIT NSE website has link to blog started by nuclear science students.
I did some googling for you: http://mitnse.com. Seems like it's in a lot greater detail (and a lot longer to read and sort through) than what's here, but for those of you with some time on your hands is probably more informative.
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A summary of comments from a Japanese friend of mine:
* This nuclear power plant is managed by a private company. They are regulated by the information discovery law, but are hesitant to make decisions that will end the company. As the MIT talk explained, letting seawater in to cool the structures means it renders them unusable in the future, and they are very prone to further damage as oxidation begins to occur. Delaying the decision to inject seawater made the problem more serious than it otherwise would have been, but was likely a risk-hedging business decision.
* Second, actually checking and measuring the plant has been a challenge since they have to select a person to physically go and do it - without being able to guarantee their health or safety. Additionally, employees are not soldiers or government officials.
* Third, the relationship between the government and the company would have worsened after the problem, and that is something they were likely trying to prevent.
My friend wanted me to emphasize that he is not a trained nuclear scientist but is rather sharing more information that is a combination of local news and his experience. He says he has management experience in his company, and the general consensus among management communities is that the management of the power plant is poor, but nobody knew just how poor it was.
As you posted that, Opaque. Japan's PM pulled out the remaining workers. The radiation got so high they had to evacuate. Meltdown imminent.
Where are you getting that information from? I'm not seeing anything about another evacuation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
Are you behind on your news? There was a temporary evacuation earlier today when radiation levels went up a bit, but they dropped again and workers are back in there now.
As for meltdown imminent. Meltdown doesn't seem to mean what you think it does. There has already been a partial meltdown it is believed.
Reading comprehension is useful.Quote:
All those remaining were pulled out for almost an hour on Wednesday because radiation levels were too high, but they were later allowed to return.
I know. I was showing Advocate.
The important thing is Advocate is trying.
MELTDOWN IMMINENT ZOMG!!!!!!!!
to be fair, hollywood makes all and every meltdown translate into entire states blowing up.
There is a lot of misinformation out there about meltdowns
Sorry guys I was behind on the news.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1300287656
I get that and all but, man, radiation is creepy. It doesn't help that the situation is already horribly fucked and we just keep finding out that it's even worse than they are saying it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
There's no sense being timid and scared about it (unless you're in the radius). All that does is breed bad decision-making.
With all this nuclear meltdown talk, all I keep seeing is this (in my head, of course):
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/me...ks_death_1.jpg
nerd
To hell with you.
japan is our spock. If spock was a weirdo
There are few things gayer than Star Wars. Star Trek makes that short list.
Anyone that obsesses over anything is pretty annoying. A person could have a job fucking titties and be just as annoying as a star trek geek if all he did was talk about it.
Star trek and star wars isn't that bad if the person knows when to not talk about it.
I want that job.
So there are a lot of relief funds asking for money to help Japan now. But diffusionx makes a good point - aren't these companies just being predatory by making money off of the Japanese catastrophe right now? Japan is a rich nation with enough capital and means to repair the damage, overall. They have the same power to print money that the United States does. As it stands right now the Japanese government is actually telling people "no thanks" when it comes to aid (according to a Japanese Canadian who just flew in to Canada and was on the radio) because they have to organize, structurally, before they can move forward.
They don't have QUITE the same power the US does (the Yen is not a reserve currency), but Japan is still an extravagantly wealthy and successful nation with the means to handle their shit. We're not talking about Sri Lanka where people live in straw huts near the ocean spearing fish, or Pakistan where people live in filth and poop in the river. They also have a government which is fairly competent and well-versed in disaster recovery. Were all this shit to happen to a nation, Japan is one of the better ones since they can handle it.
I sent money to relief agencies for the Pakistan floods but overall few people gave a shit because, hey, it's Pakistan. I understand that f-chans the world over want to unite to help their favoritest nation on earth but the money really probably would be better served elsewhere. I am sure there will be plenty of opportunities to help Japan, in the form of investment in the economy, when things get stabilized. Just be resourceful.
I was amazed to hear the Japanese woman (thick accent) in Canada basically telling her it took her 8 - 9 hours to get the airport. The, what she called, "man-made dirt" (to which the interviewer eventually figured out she meant asphalt) is apparently so saturated with salt water it's gooey and cars are getting stuck / sinking in to it. The government is doing its best to resolve the situation but it's hard. They're also employing rolling blackouts to help relieve the stress on the electrical grid (we did the same here during the blackout a few years back). Basically money wasn't even a factor - it was all just logistics at this point. I feel like a hrd ngr for saying this shit, but I was one of the Canadians who gave money to Haiti (Canada was one, if not THE, highest per capita donators in the world) and found out it basically was just used in a holding account as reserve funds.
So they didn't need the money. But the agency obviously loves to have it. They use these catastrophes as a means to rake in the cash and you never know if it actually goes to help. Most of the cost is administration.
I'm a little confused, Japan has the most debt out of any industrialized nation.
Weeaboo confirmed
The US is the largest debtor nation. We're pimping ourselves to the rest of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
If by "the largest debtor nation", you mean "the largest nation that is a debtor nation", you are correct. If you mean, "the nation with the largest debts", you are not.
So I should just buy shit straight from japan, and put the money into their economy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
You should make your own shit out of stone knives and bearskins.
I wonder if those numbers include future payouts to medicare/medicaid, social security, etc. (probably not). I don't know of any other country that has a $74 Trillion tab to pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
We don't really have to pay it.
*looks at link*Quote:
Originally Posted by Type Ryan
why do conservatives hate old people so much?
I don't know. I think the real question is: why do rich people hate poor people? This country is turning into a country of people who "have" or "have not".
Turning into?
I was going to say the exact same thing. [/razor]
Did Ryan recently spend too much time at one of those LaRouche tables on the corners?
I hate those LaRouche people.
My friend Yukia whom I met here in Chico, her folks are ok. I don't know anyone still at Misawa, but they are in red on the graph. As is Amori city! Beautiful port city. Sad times.
How is that tag still there. I thought TNL was all PC these days.
I have no idea what a LaRouche table is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakey
You should read my signature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Compass
Oh god.
Well fuck. I better get out the old radiation meter when my mail comes.
Glad I got my tele before it became cancerous.
Time for Neo-Tokyo to finally become a reality.