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I didn't even think of it.
I love the new method of getting riddler stuff added to the map, it's much better than having him just leave maps laying around which was kind of dumb.
Also fuck the Augmented Reality side missions, the advanced ones of those took me fucking forever to beat.
This game is insane, that's the only way to describe it. That and overwhelming.
Hoping to play this soon.
It looks like it has all the good stuff from Arkham Asylum, but with a ton of other good features and aspects added too. Looks great.
GOTY editions for this and Skyrim. By the time I'm tapped out on Dark Souls, both will have seen at least a price drop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
LOL "AAA" games selling for $30 new in under a year!
I got Deus Ex 2 weeks after release for $35 from TRU brick and mortar.
I'm buckling down now and focusing on the story. Zasz sidetracked me for an hour or so last night and the Aug. Reality stuff too.
LE Strategy Guide is $12 on Bradygames.com untill the 23rd. You just have to enter the promo code BATMANLE50 in your order.
This will be $40 at launch if you already own the first game on Steam. November 15th for the PC peasants.
Also: The product page shows some Steamworks features. ..along with GFWL. ..along with SecuROM.
I'm glad you pointed that out. That now has got me interested in this on PC again.
I decided to not bother with the fifty bazillion riddler trophies and stopped on the sidequests as well in order to just play through the main story this first playthrough. There's just so much side shit that I feel is better saved for a second playthrough honestly when you have all your gadgets from the start.
So I just focused on story stuff and knocked it out tonight, not going to spoil anything but HOLY FUCKING SHIT at the end game. Shit gets crazy and just keeps fucking going from there, and the actual ending, wow, just fucking wow. Make sure to not skip through the credits at all.
Now it's time for the second playthrough to try to get everything.
Yeah, I think I have 26% Overall Completion but 78% Story completion. I got tired of Zsasz calling up and I felt like I had to go do that shit, so I decided to only pick up riddler trophies that I happened to pass, etc.
Story is pretty wild though.
Really loving the game so far. I have not made a whole lot of progress, but look forward to really digging into it this weekend.
My only gripe with the game thus far is the unrelenting com/radio chatter. Is there anyway to turn off the non-essential stuff (e.g., thugs talking about their leaders, batman, the environment, etc., etc.)? I find its repetitiveness to be slightly grating and it kind of brings me out of the experience. Is anyone else with me on this?
So something that does nothing but add to the experience of being Batman on the street, takes you OUT of the experience?
Apparently every other thug thinks they have a shot with Harley since Joker got sick. Makes me think of Ramon.
I have one last AR test to do where you dive bomb and fly through the tunnel at the steel mill and it's driving me insane. I keep either hitting the wall or crashing on the last archway on the inside that's like 15 feet from the last gate.
That was the first one I tried after I finished the first set.
Spent like an hour on it and said fuck it. It's hard enough to just get into the tunnel but to actually fly THROUGH it? Fuck off.
Agreed, some of those AR missions are just dumb. Most things in the game feel very fluid and natural which is great for making you feel like the all powerful Batman, then the completely optional virtual training has you face planting into walls in an alley in front of a bunch of goons or spending more time in the water than Penguin. I kinda gave up on those for a bit, I'm not sure what the reward is for finishing all of them but I'm pretty sure the bigger reward is moving forward in the game without wasting a whole night on that shit.
To be honest I wasn't too excited about this game, but then I heard that it was going to be open world... and has Cat-Woman.
Plus Game Informer just said it was the best licensed game ever... so I may have to pick this up, that is if I don't win it off this games contest lol.
No reward whatsoever for finishing them all.
Best licensed game ever? TMNT says STFU.
Daytona USA says STFU
The balloons suck to find.
First 4 give you the Turbo grappling and all 8 gives you 25 achievement points.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
In typical videogame fashion, I quit trying that last AR mission after a good 45 minutes and then did it on my 4th try the following night. All about getting the approach right and getting a real feel for the glide physics of pulling out of the dive.
My biggest distraction now is the balloons and security cameras. Kill those the second I see them. Anyone remember how you are supposed to line up the ? mark graffiti with the detective scan? There's a huge one of the wall near the steel mill and the dot is on top one of the higher towers. Couldn't get that stupid thing to register no matter how I lined up the dot.
I'd agree it's the best licensed game ever, it does so many things right with the universe it's amazing.
I know rightQuote:
Originally Posted by GohanX
there's not even a glitchy last level that may or may not appear in this!
Which TMNT is that?
Tournament Fighters.
Drrrrragon breath!
NES Tournament Fighters is surprisingly fun, I found out this week!
Hooray for this.
The new abilities for Batman are so awesome. The charged up dive kick that basically turns into a flying spear that can knock out a line of baddies is brilliant (complete with slo-mo shockwave effect). The turbo batclaw into power bomb is one of the most vicious moves ever dreamed up, never gets old. And the new combat animations! The 3 person counter move where you whip one guy around like a doll into the others, the 2 person counter where you grab 'em by the head and spike 'em into the dirt! I yelled out loud the first time I DDT'd a guys head into a wall.
Wow. After seeing this, would anyone who has this on 360 like a code for this skin? I got it and 2 other codes for just showing up and getting the game, and I have no desire to look like that while pretending I'm Batman. PM me if you want it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chux
ME PLS
I'll take one, Pineapples.
Ok, how do you glide up? Ra's Al Ghul's trial is pissing me off. It tells me to combine bomb dives with upglides, but I can't figure out how to glide up. I pull back on the analog stick and all he does is straighten out.
What other codes did you get Pineapple? I know Shinmyk (mykes on live) was asking about the TAS skin.
That's the way to do it. Right when I want to stop diving, I hold back on the stick and then let go of the right trigger. That keeps all the speed up into the upward arc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
Oh, so I just suck then? Lol, that's ok, at least now I can pass it. Thanks.
How do you use the dlc costumes? I couldnt find the option anywhere.
The only other "upglide" is with the batclaw to pull yourself up buildings, but I don't think that's called an upglide. Once you get it down (and have the room to do it), you can fly really far without any outside assistance.
Beat the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiMoogle
Excitement rising...
If the amount of loose paper blowing around a stage is proportional to the amount of fun that stages affords -- and I've no reason to believe it isn't -- then I fucking need a GeForce Thing.
You know what's more fun than waiting for a port with paper floating around?
Playing the game a full month before it gets released on PC.
Edit: Full disclosure, I have a card that can run it like that video, but don't give enough fucks to wait a month for it.
Someone doesn't understand the value of garbage like Yoshi does.
Glorious! A++++ Post would read again.
Yep. You're part of the problem. I'll pay $40 and get the optimal version as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chux
edit: Also, how many times did you buy the first one? Three?
Yes, the problem being a person who wants to play a video game.
I heard all of next years PC games are so much better everyone gets hand jobs!
No, it's the person who settles. And it's a much, much larger problem than video games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
edit: It's like what icarusfall talks about in food threads. People think McDonald's is what beef is supposed to taste like.
Well just keep fighting the good fight then. Make your parents proud.
Twice. At release for 360, then $5 on steam sale. I'm ok with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Twice the framerate makes everything feel better, even in resistance-free games like this. Worth waiting if you've got the hardware. PhysX stuff is goofy-ass icing.
I bought the first game twice on 360 and PS3, and I bought this one on PS3 as well, just to spite Yoshi.
I get Arkham City free with my new graphics card.
Not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
holy fuck this game was good. unreal ending
I finished yesterday. Mind NOT blown. It's good but I can't see myself wanting to play through it again.
Your $60, hard at work.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilMog
It's was $37. But thanks for caring what I do with my money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
This game's pretty good - and I think the Batman character's the gayest thing ever.
When I bought it today the gamestop kid was trying to sell me a bunch of dlc packs. There in the store. It was the weirdest thing.
I told him no, and then he kept explaining the new modes available in them, then I told him to stop talking. He said it was his first day and that they had to say all that stuff and try to give you the hard sell on the advance dlc. I told him he should act like the rules don't apply to him and that if they continued to make him do things that upset customers he should punch his manager in the face. The manager was standing and watching. I pointed at him and said "He should punch you in the face." Then I gave him the you-fuck-with-the-bull-you-get-the-horns thing from Breakfast Club and silently strolled off.
Surely I made that kid's day.
Maybe he doesn't want to play through it again because there was a fuckton of content and doing all of it again is pretty daunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
If you're looking to launch into some sort of "boo-hoo games aren't worth what they're charging for 'em" tirade, this is really, really the wrong game to point to as evidence.
Nah, it's more par-for-course it seems.
Each year, hyped game comes out.
Said games are played and enjoyed in the first month.
Within the month, said games sold en masse. Doesn't matter how much content/value/quality is at work.
It's not just Akham though. Take your pick - I think it's more the audience who buys into these games, then the games "not being worth what they're charged." Always chasing the next big name title - how relevant do you think TNL will find Arkham City after Skyrim is out? After a year? After 5 years?
I don't know if it's the nature of the games, or the audience that buys into em (I'm betting on the latter), but it doesn't seem like Mog got his $60 worth if he can't even think about playing through it again.
And if such content were "daunting" why the fuck suffer it the first time? Why see that density as incentive or value if you can't see yourself getting through it all or if you do, it's a chore or unrepeatable?
Sounds like how I felt/feel about Demon's Souls. I bought that game 3 times. Never got a whole lot farther than I did before each subsequent time. Sometimes that's just how it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
Yeah, I'm not going to be buying this one. This is totally a rental game.
or in my case, a "sign into my girlfriend's account and play the free copy she got with her GeForce" game
This is a terrible argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
"Oh, you dicks should be playing games over and over instead of buying a new one once you finish the other. In my day we knew the value of a dollar!"
Fuck Mog! He didnt even like Asylum!
The weirdest part is what he described is how its been for at least the last 20 years, including the non-hyped games. It's like he just now figured out that it takes people less than a month to play through most games.Quote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
It's not like that, it's more like...if you get one hell of a ride, but only ride it once, then is it $60, wait a year and get it at $20, or wait for the inevitable GotY Edition for $40?Quote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
If you have the cash to comfortably spend and are in the mood for it, the answer will probably be the $60 one.
That's the one I went with.
I don't demand I squeeze every last drop out of a game. I also don't buy dlc.
I guess the thing with me is that after playing Arkham Asylum a bunch of times and not getting everything and still wanting to play...I can't see myself finishing City once and calling it a day.
When GTA3 first came out, (and later San Andreas to a greater degree) that game had a LOT of content. You could see your completion percentage slowly go up over time. I remember that last Jeep mission I needed to do, driving uphill grabbing markers. I remember getting 100%. It was amazing, and I would never, ever do it again. That's cool with me.
This forum needs more Tains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tain
I don't understand this multi-play argument at all. I don't think I've replayed a game this generation except for both Uncharted games and the first two Gears of War games. And they forced me to do it to play on the highest difficulty, and I consider that the biggest fault with either of them. There are way, way too many good games coming out on too many platforms. I have a whole hell of a lot more extra money than extra time, so I will gladly spend $30-50 (still not a fan of $60 in the vast majority of cases) for an 8-12 hour romp. If the game is much longer than that, it starts to irritate me in many cases, though New Vegas and The Witcher 2, for example, got about 35 hours each and earned them all, so it's not impossible. I expect Skyrim will be in the group as well.
I remember this blew my mind when I played Mirror's Edge on my PC.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...p;d=1319374127
What's not to understand? Have you listened to your favorite song once?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Stop it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
This is my reaction to his comment too. Mog didn't even say he felt ripped off or anything, he wilingly paid full price for a game he wanted to play and finished it, you don't even know how long it took him. Stop with the x amount of dollars means y amount of hours. Pay what you want for a game when you want to play it, no need to freak out about how others do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
The real issue with this game is WB's shady ass Catwoman pass. That shouldn't exist. It's done in time for launch, it's part of the story, it should be on the disc. Not everyone has their console online.
Also! Thanks for the code Pineapple!
If it was 20 hours long, I'd listen to it a whole lot less or never.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Robot Bit Me
Arkham City is a better game than Arkham Asylum. Just saying
What's going on in here?
Didn't I say I did not pay full price? Even if I did I feel it was worth it. It's a good game. I played the shit out of it last week. Big fucking deal if I dont play through it again. I never play through single player games twice. I never go back to games to find all the widgets unless it's plausible. 400 collectibles can fuck off. I find no joy in hunting for stuff. Stop squawking about this already.
FYI the last hour or so was pretty stellar.
And if all games averaged 3 minutes, you wouldn't buy any at all, so that's not really a fair criticism, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
That's seriously the point you're going with?
No, but since your comparison didn't make much sense, I figured I'd go the other way with it. The point is that it's absurd to think that everyone only plays a game once. If a game is good and you enjoy it, why shouldn't you play it more than once? Not everyone has a pile of shame, and sometimes you just want to play a certain game again.
Not everyone feels the same way you do. Hell, I enjoyed Bioshock so much that I played through it three times.
This game is absolutely incredible. Just did a pair of overnight sittings and then some, it's so good.
You're arguing against a point that wasn't even made. Go read Hero's post. I don't think that everyone only plays a game once. Hell, if I had the time, I'd love to play some games again. But it's also absurd to think that everyone has time and lack of interest in other games to play every or even any game multiple times. The price of a game should never dictate how many times you play through it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
This is why randomly generated content is both a blessing and a curse
If done well, that almost always warrant another playthrough...especially loot finding games like the Diablo series. I can't imagine anyone who has only played through that once.
Of course, the detriment is that you lose a lot of cohesion of competent level design and gameplay progression.
Random generation is still a scarcely-tapped resource. Its use in adventure/action games hasn't evolved much since Fushigi no Dungeon's long corridors joining rectanglular rooms host to small selection pools of too-similar enemies. Its potential is obvious, but no one seems to be willing to put in the work.
The problem is, between the "long corridors joining rectangular rooms" of today and the awesome randomly generated games of tomorrow there lies tons of experiments and failures like Hellgate London and developers today just cannot risk it.
Seems like the solution could be "semi-randomized enemy encounters in a defined level structure", just get something dangerous to pop up every now and then to keep you on your toes. Full randomization isn't always fun (unless it's Spelunky), locked down enemy locations suck if you're replaying a game.
Some middle ground can be struck, I think!
That's what Left 4 Dead does. I can't think of any other examples.
Left 4 Dead does it really well. Games seem to be hesitant to kill the player off straight away though, and Left 4 Dead really doesn't have much of a problem with that.
Binding of Isaac rules because it's random
I want to like that game more than I do! It's just sort of a pain in the ass to play.
Binding of Isaac controls like shit.
TOTAL shit.
I didn't mind it using a 360 controller.
It should have 8 way shooting though wtf at 4 directional bullshit.
I was referring to this post, which you made in reference to what Tain, not Hero, said:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
That sounded like you were arguing against people playing a game more than once to me. At least, the first couple of lines seem to say exactly that. That's the point I was arguing against.Quote:
I don't understand this multi-play argument at all. I don't think I've replayed a game this generation except for both Uncharted games and the first two Gears of War games. And they forced me to do it to play on the highest difficulty, and I consider that the biggest fault with either of them. There are way, way too many good games coming out on too many platforms. I have a whole hell of a lot more extra money than extra time, so I will gladly spend $30-50 (still not a fan of $60 in the vast majority of cases) for an 8-12 hour romp. If the game is much longer than that, it starts to irritate me in many cases, though New Vegas and The Witcher 2, for example, got about 35 hours each and earned them all, so it's not impossible. I expect Skyrim will be in the group as well.
You only mention price in regards to it not being a factor because of your limited play time. I never said anything about price being a factor at all.
Hey jerks, can you stop doing this?
We're talking about buttsman now, not pc v console.
Mr Freeze fight was awesome, Batman is so damn angry in this game it's awesome.
"It's not my first day on the job Oracle, I already did that."