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I doubt it would have set the charts on fire but it would have sold a LOT better than the 50,000 copies it managed in the first NPD month. It really was sent to die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
And people do care about platformers so long as Nintendo makes em or Sonic is involved.
But really, fuck sales. It's brilliant and I'm pretty sure some people on TNL still play games.
Nintendo games sell because they are Nintendo. It's more about the brand than anything else. You can take Super Mario 3D Land, swap out the Mario with Plok or whatever and it would bomb.
This game is on my wishlist and has been since release. I do hope I get it, if I don't I'll buy it.
Not to mention it was sent to die in one of the strongest November's for games we've seen in a long while. Given what else was going out on the same day, it was easy for me to say no to $60 for this.
And didn't they release it on the same day as Assassin's Creed 4? Amazon says yes.
The hyperbole is a little much there, diff. The Nintendo brand and the Mario brand in particular has deservingly built a certain cache with the consumer, their games will undoubtedly sell because of it, but that's only compounded much further because Super Mario 3D Land is a wonderful game. Brilliantly constructed and designed.
Rayman Origins is undoubtedly a beautiful game and I'm as pleased as anyone to see a brand-new platformer (particularly multi-platform) being made, but I've never thought the above from what little I've played of Rayman Origins, or the Rayman series as a whole. If anything, I don't care for much if not all of the game's/series' aesthetic.
And to echo the above, it was beyond stupid of them to release the game when they did. Never had a chance.
You guys really think the game would've been some big hit if it came out in July? Good games come out in July too, after all. Less than in November, but the stores are a lot emptier too. Sure it might have sold 150,000 instead of 50,000, but that's still a huge bomb.
Well, there is no doubting that, but I don't know what ANY company is doing thinking they can release something like Rayman and not Modern Shootmans Deluxe Sequel 2000, or Huge Hype Machine Bootknocker 5 in November.
Well, nobody is releasing games like this in any other month either. I really can't remember the last time we got a really high-end "AAA" 2D platform game on a console.
I dunno about that - Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 only sold a tenth of what New Super Mario Bros. Wii pulled off (and combined, only as many copies as Minecraft, of all things). There's this notion that brand sells Nintendo, a myth I'm sure Nintendo is happy peddling. When you look at the numbers though...it seems more like 2D platforming sells (and Mario gives it a "boost") than anything with Mario selling because its Mario (otherwise all the 3D Mario games would've exploded like New SMB did).Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
Although on a larger perspective, yes, it's depressing when the self-proclaimed hardcore gamers of our day decry 2D platforming as casual-shit-for-monkey-retards-better-be-download-only-how-dare-they-put-that-shit-on-a-disc than embrace something that reinvigorates old school gameplay with fantastic graphics like Rayman does.
Yeah, it bums me out too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan