Good. Those guys get really chewed out if you don't get SOMETHING.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
I'm so damn glad I'm not there anymore.
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Good. Those guys get really chewed out if you don't get SOMETHING.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
I'm so damn glad I'm not there anymore.
I think a Windows license should be factored into the price of a PC. Pirating isn't a legit option and Linux/Wine, give me a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
My point was that an "average PC" these days is a $450 laptop. These new systems will be more capable than that, but less than a more expensive system dedicated to gaming.
Yes, but going back to my original point: The Xbox, 360 and PS3 were on par with a pretty good PC build for their time, at a fraction of the cost. They were a pretty good bang for the buck, even considering that the PS3 was $600 at launch. This time around, these consoles appear to be scaling it back a bit. If they launch at $400, I'm going to have a hard time justifying the purchase. $300 seems like a much better price for what you are getting, considering it has no real upgrade path.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
I think people are underestimating these machines.
Given that Ultra HD/4k content and even affordable PCs that can power that resolution are 3-5 years off, the new gen consoles need to be able to finally do 1080p at 60fps, something my PC has been doing for the last 3 years. With the convergence of console and PC development, there will need to be more features outside of social integration that will compel hardcore consumers (early adopters) to buy a new console and establish them as a financially viable platform. At this point, I'm more excited about my PC and Rift.
I hope the best for PS4 but I just don't see what it will offer that will break the mold.
You're right they won't, and purely because of people like you that they won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
It's already established among gamers that anything Nintendo releases is crap tech. So when they put the Wii U at the $300-$350 range, it gives Sony and MS license to sell their boxes even higher (which I'm sure they're happy about - could you imagine taking another $100 hit when you're already gonna lose money at any price point you sell at?)
Not that I think they will sell well though. We live in an era where smartphones are $200-$500 a pop and refreshed annually to bi-annually. Who's gonna have the budget (outside tech-fetishists) to plunk down $400-$600 for a dedicated games console?
The same people buying $200-$500 smartphones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
I will buy the hell out of both of them at launch. And not regret it like I am doing with WiiU.
I get what you're saying, and agree to an extent. I think it's partly a different market though. Everyone needs a phone in this day and age. People want to be able to surf the web, check their email, facebook, etc etc on the go. Most people I would say see the investment of $200 - $500 on their smartphone as a completely different one than a video game system. People are willing to pay 200 - 500 for a smartphone, and what like $300 - $600 for a tablet, but not as many people were/are willing to spend $250 on a dedicated gaming handheld. I know handhelds aren't smartphones, they lack the same features of a smartphone, but I think the comparison is fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
Plus the attitude I think is different. Folks buying a smart phone have this plethora of apps and games either for free, or fairly inexpensive. Yes, while the games are going to be on a whole other scale on a console, the smartphone market doesn't see it that way.
I think the issue is more complicated and to just boil it down as the same people buying $200 - $500 smartphones is over simplifying things.
I think people are more easily convinced to drop $200 - $500 on a smartphone, than they are to drop $400 - $500 on a game console. Add in the possibility of MS going with a no used game policy with their next system, and I think they're going to have a REALLY hard sell. Outside of the Joust Williams of the gaming world. Sorry Joust but you have to realize you are in the minority here.
I'm going to predict that Sony and MS next systems will have a base unit for $400 and the non-tard pack for $500.
I'd also say that if MS is going with both no used games, and a pricing plan, they're going to run into trouble. The market that would be most into a pricing plan, I think is also the market most into buying used, and selling their old games to fund new game purchases.
Yeah, but *if* this is a HTPC-lite, then it becomes more of a 'do a lot of stuff' device.