Natural Childbirth

The funny thing is, I guarantee that most of you don't even have children, so taking such a hard ass stance on an issue that has no effect on you whatsoever is downright hilarious.

I never demonized doctors or hospitals, and I sure as hell never implied that I was a better parent and flaunting it in peoples faces. Thats just silly. I don't care where you have your kid, if YOU are doing what you feel is right for your kid then have at it. People seem to think that since we chose a different way to have our kid, that we're holier than thou and look down on people that have hospital births. Such bullshit. We caught so much shit from EVERYONE in our family, painting all these horror stories of shit that was going to go wrong, and how we were bad parents. I just don't believe that birth is the horrific fucking medical emergency that the medical world has convinced people that it is. IT IS NOT A MEDICAL EMERGENCY.

The simple fact of the matter is, if your wife/girlfriend/whatever is young and perfectly healthy and there are no complications with her pregnancy, there is absolutely no reason why she isn't perfectly capable of having a natural childbirth.

This thread is so stupid

I take it that your vanity makes you adore it.

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Originally Posted by Jed

I just don't believe that birth is the horrific fucking medical emergency that the medical world has convinced people that it is.

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They did? Pretty sure they just convinced everyone it's a sterile environment with people and resources designed to handle the situation.

You're right in that anyone (barring known complications) should be able to have a natural childbirth, but saying that it's some sudden thing to have cropped up as a medical emergency is just silly and narrow-minded. We also used to live in caves and mud huts for forever, but our current housing situation is still a million times better for avoiding and suppressing diseases and ailments.

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The funny thing is, I guarantee that most of you don't even have children, so taking such a hard ass stance on an issue that has no effect on you whatsoever is downright hilarious.

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It's true, we're all test-tube babies. None of us were born.

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Originally Posted by Jed

The simple fact of the matter is, if your wife/girlfriend/whatever is young and perfectly healthy and there are no complications with her pregnancy, there is absolutely no reason why she isn't perfectly capable of having a natural childbirth.

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There are statistics which show this to be a false statement. Which is kind of the whole point of everything we've been saying.

When did hospitals become for medical emergencies only?

Show me these statistics that explicitly state a perfectly healthy woman with ZERO complications is not perfectly capable of natural childbirth.

The one where three times as many children die at home births as hospital births with all other things considered in the statistical breakdown.

I posted, literally, the entire research paper. I'm not going to teach you how to read it too.

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Originally Posted by bbobb

When did hospitals become for medical emergencies only?

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Time was you could book a room in a hospital for exhaustion or any other damn thing in advance, like a hotel. For the purposes of wearing a robe around and hitting on nurses in the country.

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Originally Posted by Jed

The funny thing is, I guarantee that most of you don't even have children, so taking such a hard ass stance on an issue that has no effect on you whatsoever is downright hilarious.

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No but we have brains and facts. More important.

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Originally Posted by Jed

I never demonized doctors or hospitals, and I sure as hell never implied that I was a better parent and flaunting it in peoples faces. Thats just silly. I don't care where you have your kid, if YOU are doing what you feel is right for your kid then have at it. People seem to think that since we chose a different way to have our kid, that we're holier than thou and look down on people that have hospital births. Such bullshit. We caught so much shit from EVERYONE in our family, painting all these horror stories of shit that was going to go wrong, and how we were bad parents. I just don't believe that birth is the horrific fucking medical emergency that the medical world has convinced people that it is. IT IS NOT A MEDICAL EMERGENCY.

The simple fact of the matter is, if your wife/girlfriend/whatever is young and perfectly healthy and there are no complications with her pregnancy, there is absolutely no reason why she isn't perfectly capable of having a natural childbirth.

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You absolutely did paint the picture of hospitals as a dire sess pit of practical medicine and doctors as overworked, uncaring beasts who would just as soon yank the baby out with a plunger then deliver it properly with tons of care.