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They took a skin cell from an adult mouse, turned it into a stem cell with the Tetromino thingies restored to their youthful vibrance, and using no donor eggs or anything else GREW A FUCKING LIVE VIABLE MOUSE OUT OF IT. SEVERAL TIMES.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
How much harder do you want it applied? If they did it again and nobody looked at the damn mouse, then would it count as not an observation?
I don't know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
This is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
TNL's general rule of thumb is that the longer your post are and the more it comes into conflict with their personal world view, the wronger you are.
No one knows anything. And you really don't know anything if you can't say what you have to say in a sentence and it doesn't come into conflict with what anyone thinks.
Which is, no joke, incredible. I've heard of studies like this and it's the kind of stuff science fiction used to dream about and it's leading, key word there, us down a path to a possible solution for the problem I'm talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheebs
Also, stop saying youthful vibrance, you sound like an idiot. Also, if those cells had already replicated to the point that coding DNA was lost this procedure would be a huge waste of time, so don't
Ok, dude, really stop. Try really hard to read and understand what I'm saying. Ok, are you read? I don't believe you. Take a deep breath.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheebs
What you linked does not show that we have a way to solve the problem of DNA sections being lost when replication takes place. It also does not give us a full body, permanent, way to continue the attachment of telomeres at a controlled rate. I'm not talking about them applying it to growing a mouse, and rest assured that new mouse, every single one of it's cells will lose information because of how DNA Polymerase works and they won't function like stem cells forever, or even a very long time.
I'll just make this easy on you, email this to your sister who you will listen to:
You will get a lot of "no" followed by her telling you that your body will not rewrite coding DNA from scratch and it has never known how to.Quote:
Is there currently any technology which can either:
1) Permanently change the way DNA Polymerase attaches to DNA making it no longer lose a section of DNA during replication?
2) Apply permanent changes to every cell in the human body allowing for controlled attachment of telomeres at a rate which negates the losses during DNA replication?
Additionally, is there anyway to regain lost sections of coding DNA through any means we've currently observed? Specifically, if the section of DNA that coded for my hair color was lost in one cell during replication, is there any way for a cell to rebuild that section properly, or is DNA only ever copied, never rewritten from scratch?
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Originally Posted by Fe 26
This thread has a lot of youthful vibrance. Particularly in the areas of spelling and college boy know-it-all-isms.
It really depends on how you define your identity. If you consider everything you produce to be a part of you, sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
If you include toenails, shit, cancer, old hair, shit you throw away, your computer, your clothes, to be extensions of yourself then yes, the copy would be you. It is made from you.
But the scenario where you digitize yourself and you live on in the internet isn't going to happen. That is silly fantasy science crap.
Yes you do and I'll prove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
Can humans breathe underwater without assistance? You answered no, and you're right, and just because you don't have ten years of biology under your belt doesn't make you any less right. Someone with more biology might be able to tell you exactly what happens when lungs fill with water, or how long your brain can go without oxygen before it starts to take damage and so forth. They are not, however, going to let you in on some magical secret about how your really can breathe water because fish can.
Lots of stupid people have said this about things they didn't understand throughout all of history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
lol. Cheebs is awesome. I like how he remains entirely unruffled regardless of how condescending Opaque gets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheebs