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So purely by virtue of being a mouse, nature alows mice to undergo this cell reversion/cloning process. That should be obvious the same way nature lets fish live under water. Just as under water life doesn't apply to humans, neither does this stem cell buisness because, duh, people aren't mice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
I finally understand.
[taking notes] "Tetromino thingy" is OK. "Youthful vibrance" is idiotic [/taking notes]Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
Honesty time: do you have a learning disability?
Your complete inability to comprehend that when I made that analogy I wasn't referencing your mice thing, at all, tells me you might. I also NEVER said that stem cell research doesn't apply to humans, I said it doesn't permanently solve the problem I'm talking about, which is doesn't. How, possibly, is this so difficult for you? You're typing on a computer, you somehow even lived past thirty, but you cannot target in on a specific problem/solution no matter how many times I try to help you. I give up, you are, an I use no hyperbole, the most difficult to teach human being on this board. It's not stubborn either, you genuinely are not intelligent.
You literally know nothing about this subject, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheebs
You just googled words I said, didn't you? You didn't even understand the studies, did you:
You have no idea what that means in regards to this discussion. And yes, saying "youthful vibrance" is stupid buzz word nonsense which has nothing to do with these studies and was never said by these studies, because it doesn't mean anything.Quote:
These findings indicate that telomeric chromatin is dynamic and reprogrammable, and has a fundamental role in the maintenance of embryonic stem cell pluripotency.
This is pretty great. This whole thing.
But according to you, you can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
Well, according to logicians I can't. Hell, even according to science I can't.
I can be highly confident that it's correct. Happy now?
Pluripotency is just a fancy lad term for youthful vibrance, really.
I hate all of you.
Good thing all we were ever talking about was putting some protective youth goo over the ends of the DNA, Which you said we couldn't do using adult cells.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
Don't hurt your back too badly moving those goal posts. The stem cells need a bit more time in the research lab before we can give you an injection of hot youth spine to make you better.Quote:
It also does not give us a full body, permanent, way to continue the attachment of telomeres at a controlled rate. I'm not talking about them applying it to growing a mouse, and rest assured that new mouse, every single one of it's cells will lose information because of how DNA Polymerase works and they won't function like stem cells forever, or even a very long time.
And yes, the new mouse is just fine. But I will give you that the stem cells are no longer stem cells once they grow into healthy, functioning not-stem cells. You got me there.