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Is the objection that the exact one-to-one copy isn't a continuation of the original? Because it is. Except their histories then go in different directions. If the original receives a nick from being dropped, the copy doesn't magically receive that nick. But they are still the same as of the point of copying.
Unless you think that objects have souls or something, and I think you do (believe that).
No one is arguing against that.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
It has nothing to do with that. The only statement being made is that just because a copy has been made doesn't mean the original goes on forever, it just means what the original embodied goes on forever. If my mind was copied into a computer I would still die and my original consciousness will not be immortal. A copy of my consciousness might go on forever, but that's little comfort to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
You're leaving out a step, then.
This is discussed in that book you didn't read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
What's the book?
Durp the Hurp-Durp by Faggington Soggybottoms III?
does it, or does it not end up putting your mind in a digital computer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Or does it make the argument that things will get so advanced that the super advanced robots we make will make super advanced computers for us to interface with in ways that we can't possible understand right now?
Sounds like spaghetti monster talk to me. "I'm going to live on forever. I don't understand how, but I read it in a book."
You guys are thinking about this wrong. You don't just dump yourself into a computer and then leave your original self standing there. As parts of your mind threaten to go, you augment it with an artificial mind. The biological you dies as it would over a decade or so and an artificial you is left. And it would be the same you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
Think about it. The being that was the seven year old you has no remaining living cells. They all got replaced. There is no longer a being on this planet that has that same thought process and reactions. The physical body and the mind of that being are gone. Yet you remain.
This entire thread is spaghetti monster talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buttplant
It wouldn't even be a good copy. Americans are amazingly distant from their bodies. You are not the sum of your thoughts and memories. Your mind can be heavily influenced by your health, the pheromones of the people around you, the food you eat, the drugs you do, previous trauma, natural depression, brain damage, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
Lets put it this way, lets say you're gay. Being gay has a pretty big impact on your identity. Sex is a pretty big part of anyone's identity. It is a force. It pushes you to do things. Now lets say they copy your mind. Now what? Your copy no longer has a dick or balls or a prostate. There isn't anything pumping hormones into it. That thought process will be gone from your copy. Your electronic copy won't be gay. It won't be anything.
Sure, they will probably be able to even simulate that, eventually, but it would be an ideal simulation. Your copy would receive an ideal amount of hormones.
Now repeat that for everything. Your copy has an ideal amount of everything the body does to impact the brain.
Would it even think like you anymore? Or would be different person with shared experiences?