Fighting Game Tournament Discussion or Something

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Originally Posted by YellerDog

Shut up, junior. :lol:

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Stuff it up your ass.

Ha ha ha

Hoping KoFXIII makes it to the big-leagues next year, fun to watch even though it takes a million goddamn years to run through a bracket in that game.

a million years? just how many mexicans/chileans are going to evo

Four. That's the problem with KoFXIII.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tom4v...ture=autoshare

Too lazy to youtube tag, but I thought it was entertaining.

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Originally Posted by Razor Ramon

That "tier-whore" logic is ruining SRK. I don't want it to do the same here with fighting games. Tiers exist, and you can choose not to use them. You cannot demonize a player, though, for picking the best weapon in a fight. It's as if I opened an arsenal for you and there are two guns and a knife there. instead of choosing either gun, you choose the knife. I proceed to win and you cry how it was unfair. You had your chance to make it fair but made it harder on yourself. Sop them tears up and recognize.

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I can totally prop up a dude who beats two guys armed with guns while he only had a knife though.

And didn't you cry about Dante and Zero normals in another thread?

When I start playing a fighting game I try people out until I find the one that makes the game fun for me. Then I stick with them through nerfs, buffs, whatever. I don't know why there should be any sense of loyalty to a video game character, but deep down I definitely feel negatively about switching characters to follow the tiers. Intellectually I understand and it makes sense and it really doesn't matter at all, but in my gut I think the guy that does it is a prick. So there's that.

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I can totally prop up a dude who beats two guys armed with guns while he only had a knife though.

And didn't you cry about Dante and Zero normals in another thread?

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I never cried for a nerf before. They just have annoying normals with 360 degree hitboxes and multiple hits.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

When I start playing a fighting game I try people out until I find the one that makes the game fun for me. Then I stick with them through nerfs, buffs, whatever. I don't know why there should be any sense of loyalty to a video game character, but deep down I definitely feel negatively about switching characters to follow the tiers. Intellectually I understand and it makes sense and it really doesn't matter at all, but in my gut I think the guy that does it is a prick. So there's that.

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Shut the fuck up.

Ok so my thoughts on this since I personally think mvc3 is a really well-designed game and that people are really spoiled for thinking otherwise:

1) tiers are fine. It's inevitable that there will be tiers. Balance is so hard to pull off. My only complaint about really good players is that IF they picked some strong but not as easy win characters we might see some truly amazing stuff. For instance -- marlinpie running viper on point -- so good. Why don't we see more vipers? Because she is 50X harder to use than wolverine and he is more effective. So my point: I wish more really technical players would use more of the cast so that we could see the potential of characters that I myself don't have the skills to perfect. Kind of like the way combofiend uses spencer so amazingly or clockwork uses doom so well. But honestly, I don't care about tiers and I don't get salty about people who run them. If you want to win, you pick good characters, if you want to run casuals and just chill, then run your b team. There was a lot of money on the line at evo, hell yeah I would pick phoenix too if I was that good of a player. But sure I would love to have seen some high level Trish or Chris, or other chars I like make it through.

2) Phoenix is good but you gotta play really well to win with her. She is actually a difficult win depending on the team you are playing against. If anything, viscant won because of his superb wesker. He is an expert. He doesn't just push buttons and win. All those resets, setups, mixups etc. these take a lot of skill to pull off. Here's what would happen to an average player with phoenix -- she gets snapped in, mixed up and dies, then your team dies. Rinse. Repeat. The patch will hopefully balance things out so people will work more of the cast and more of it will be playable at higher competition.

Phoenix is a huge pain online. The one issue is even if you're good her mix-ups are solid as fuck. I just super jump. I'd rather get hit by a fireball or two than mixed up on the ground.