The Owl - Feedback

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Originally Posted by Nick

rights should be scaled back

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This is never correct.

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Anyway, that's for another thread. I just posted that to suggest if you are going to profess support for specific political issues (and these are legal protections being debated, not human rights issues), you will come across as a oversimplifying prig to some people, and it is easy to take something like what you wrote as being haughty and dismissive. Making food simple and changing it around yields tasty results, but ideas are much, more more stubborn.

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This is absolutely correct. I agree with everything icarus said in that message. Nonetheless, it would turn me off to eating there. Marriage equality rights have nothing to do with a dining experience. Locally sourced alfalfa sprouts and socially conscious all-natural fibers and whatnot? Sure, it's relevant.

But marriage equality? From a restaurant? Now I feel like an agenda is being shoved down my throat, and I've lost my appetite as a potential customer. The fact that I agree wholeheartedly with the underlying message doesn't make it any more palatable.

True story. When I read the tweets from Tom Colicchio on Twitter about social issues/politics. It lowers my respect for the Chef one tweet at a time.

But I have no issue with what Icarus said.

The restaurant is an extension of who I am - not a silent bystander.

If it upsets your appetite that from time to time the voice of the restaurant is in disagreement with you, I believe the problem lies with you. Out of the hundreds of updates I've written exactly 2 have been political.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

The restaurant is an extension of who I am - not a silent bystander.

If it upsets your appetite that from time to time the voice of the restaurant is in disagreement with you, I believe the problem lies with you. Out of the hundreds of updates I've written exactly 2 have been political.

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Was that to me, cause I have never disagreed with anything you've said on FB.

The problems I've had with Chef Colicchio pertained to his viewing of the Republican Debates and what he said during them.

No, it was directed at Andrew.

I'm not strangled by my profession. I may be a chef by current trade, but I have an entire other degree, and happen to know a ludicrous amount about psychology. If I have something to say regarding an issue, I'll speak on it. On occasion I may use my business as a platform for something I believe in. The same way I might write something about beef.

I loved your last post about Jesus and being a believer. I think I even "liked" that one.

Religion. The end.

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Originally Posted by Andrew

But marriage equality? From a restaurant? Now I feel like an agenda is being shoved down my throat, and I've lost my appetite as a potential customer. The fact that I agree wholeheartedly with the underlying message doesn't make it any more palatable.

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Is this sarcasm? Because one entry on a Facebook page doesn't exactly create an oppressively agenda-oriented environment.

James

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Originally Posted by James

Is this sarcasm? Because one entry on a Facebook page doesn't exactly create an oppressively agenda-oriented environment.

James

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Nobody said anything about oppression. Go get your paper bag and take a few deep breaths.

Right, not oppression. Just an agenda being shoved down your throat. Which apparently is merely rude rather than oppressive.

So we can assume not sarcasm? That a statement made by the owner in a single post on the company's Facebook page is an agenda rather than an opinion? Doesn't an agenda take more than that?

Also, you do know the restaurant is owned by a person who is interested in more than cooking, right? Even if he hadn't posted this, this or any other non-food topic might have come up in conversation while you were there in person. It would have been terrible, you having to leave with a meal half-finished because of chatting with a person about stuff. Damn agendas!

James

Conversely, would you all gladly support a restaurant whose owner posted the direct opposite?
Im with nick and have said much the same thing in the past, though never so eloquently.

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Originally Posted by Andrew

This is absolutely correct. I agree with everything icarus said in that message. Nonetheless, it would turn me off to eating there. Marriage equality rights have nothing to do with a dining experience. Locally sourced alfalfa sprouts and socially conscious all-natural fibers and whatnot? Sure, it's relevant.

But marriage equality? From a restaurant? Now I feel like an agenda is being shoved down my throat, and I've lost my appetite as a potential customer. The fact that I agree wholeheartedly with the underlying message doesn't make it any more palatable.

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I don't buy this line. I think it's a way to restrict the debate. Like politics and political issues are only for those politician folk. And church leaders, for some reason. But athletes, celebrities, business owners in the local community talking about local issues? No no no, can't have that.

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Originally Posted by Some Stupid Japanese Name

Conversely, would you all gladly support a restaurant whose owner posted the direct opposite?

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No. I'll never stay at the Venetian, for example, because the owner is a crazy right wing zionist who gave Newt Gingrich like $20 million. But on the other hand, that comes with the territory. You say an opinion, people will change their behavior. Doesn't mean you shouldn't say it if you feel strongly about it. icarusfall will probably lose some customers. But he might gain more.

I understand the argument that one doesn't want to indirectly fund some monstrosity, but there's a point where we cross over into thought police territory. If I found out a local business owner supported drilling for oil in the Arctic, I might have a discussion with him about it, but it wouldn't affect my patronage in and of itself. If he flushed his money down the toilet supporting a candidate who never had a chance of winning, that's his business.

It's a conceit to think we should only support businesses whose owners are political clones of ourselves, but it is typical of today's Like-button-fueled vanity activism. Financially punishing a person who has an honest disagreement with you does nothing to change the world in a better way. I would go to The Owl because the food sounds good and I want to financially support chefs who make good food so more good food will be made. If I think the menu is wonderful but I don't spend money there, will that encourage icarusfall to change anything about his deeply held political convictions or will it simply help dissuade others from opening similar restaurants in that area because The Owl went under?

Hurt the decision makers by voting them out of office. Hurt the corporations that commit crimes by withholding your dollars. But when it comes to everyday individuals having a different opinion - that's going to happen wherever there is free thought.

No, there is no thought police issue.

I'm not asking for every business to hang answers to a political survey in their window. I am saying that it's perfectly acceptable for people to use their platform to influence debate. They don't have to, but they could if they felt strongly about it. But doing so has consequences.

Aren't you not supposed to talk politics or religion over dinner?

This sounds like both.

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Originally Posted by Nick

I think marriage rights should be scaled back overall, so it's difficult to come out in support of gay marriage rights, though I am a liberal athiest who doesn't vote for Republicans except in exceptional circumstances (we had a real scumball Democrat running for a county office one year - he later went to jail, I think). I haven't thought about it at great length, and I certainly haven't researched it enough to come out with a firm decision, but my gut reaction is that we should provide legal advantages tied to marriage only where there is a child to raise (whether the parents are of the same sex or not). I think it is important to provide a stable home in the formative years, so I support tax breaks and such for partners who are raising children, but marriage seems like an anachronism beyond that. Why fight to expand and codify something so outdated? Is that really "progressive" and individualistic or we still carrying around a security blanket that we should have already outgrown?

If you - male or female, heterosexual or homosexual - leave work in order to raise a child, you should be provided some breaks. However, if your children are grown and you went back to work and are doing fine for yourself making your own money, why should you get a tax break in your working years and and an extra entitlement check in your retirement just because you are/were married?

I bring this up only to remind you that free people have very different reasons for taking very different stands. Maybe some of your potential customers support equal parenting rights and things like affording a gay partner the same considerations as a heterosexual spouse in property matters (next-of-kin, etc.), but oppose extending most marriage rights to anyone, gay or not. If you don't think John and Mary should get a special break, you can't very well claim that Peter and Paul should get that same break.

Anyway, that's for another thread. I just posted that to suggest if you are going to profess support for specific political issues (and these are legal protections being debated, not human rights issues), you will come across as a oversimplifying prig to some people, and it is easy to take something like what you wrote as being haughty and dismissive. Making food simple and changing it around yields tasty results, but ideas are much, more more stubborn.

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That divorce still hurts, huh?

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Originally Posted by James

... if the rule of the land is that straights can have this, why can't gays?

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Because hating gays is one of the last "acceptable" bigotries in this country.

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Originally Posted by Andrew

The fact that I agree wholeheartedly with the underlying message doesn't make it any more palatable.

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I disagree. I choose, to the best of my ability, to support businesses whose ethical stances I agree with. Making those stances public, and not requiring me to spend hours doing investigative Internet actions, is appreciated.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

On occasion I may use my business as a platform for something I believe in.

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As you should. At the end of the day it is your business.

I'd eat Hitler's pancakes if they were delicious.

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Originally Posted by Doc Holliday

I'd eat Hitler's pancakes if they were delicious.

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Belgian waffles taste best when made with real Belgians.

Same with vegan burgers.

I'd tell my Jewish friends, 'Look we're going to this German guy's pizza house; put on this blonde wig and blue contacts, and just don't think too much about what's firing the brick oven...'

Good on you Ic. Keep us updated on how people deal with the fb post.

This is something I've thought off and on about. I hope to one day have some kind of business, and it might be located in MS (MS would be a great place for a factory. Low overhead, no unions, etc). And one day I will probably open my less stupid mouth to let all the stupid bigots know what I think of them.

Honestly, I don't see why owning and operating a business gives you a right to espouse your personal opinions in public.

I thought being a human gave you the right to espouse your personal opinions in public?

It is 2012, right? We're not all a bunch of Victorian prudes, are we?

Well, i know a particular lady in your immediate ancestral line who is certainly no victorian prude.

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

I thought being a human gave you the right to espouse your personal opinions in public?

It is 2012, right? We're not all a bunch of Victorian prudes, are we?

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Ok so you, as a person, believe in gay marriage. What the fuck does that have to do with the small business you own and operate?

It's pandering at best, and shoving your views down someone elses' throat at worst.

Thats life man. I don't know what to tell you if you honestly think we should make it where people can't use the things they acquire in life to spread their views.

What would be the alternatives? We all politely write down our ideas on note cards, then pass them around and read them? Everyone just keep their opinions to themselves? How would the second idea benefit a democracy? Isn't that how bigotry persist in this nation? That entire states just ignore or don't hear better ideas and opinions?

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

Thats life man. I don't know what to tell you if you honestly think we should make it where people can't use the things they acquire in life to spread their views. s?

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I'm not saying it should be illegal. I just think it's tacky and weird.

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What would be the alternatives? We all politely write down our ideas on note cards, then pass them around and read them? Everyone just keep their opinions to themselves? How would the second idea benefit a democracy? Isn't that how bigotry persist in this nation? That entire states just ignore or don't hear better ideas and opinions?

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The alternative is that you keep your personal views separate from the business you run. A restaurant doesn't need to have an opinion on gay marriage.

You have an oddly distorted idea of what small businesses are.

The Owl belongs to Ic. It is his. Like a car or house or tv. He even owns the property. He can do what he wants to with it. It is part of his person.

Hell, what he is doing is kind of like art. Are you going to tell someone they can't share their views with their art?

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A restaurant doesn't need to have an opinion on gay marriage.

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America would be a very dull place if we only did the things we "needed" to do.

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

You have an oddly distorted idea of what small businesses are.

The Owl belongs to Ic. It is his. Like a car or house or tv. He even owns the property. He can do what he wants to with it. It is part of his person.

America would be a very dull place if we only did the things we "needed" to do.

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You're retarded. I'm not disputing the fact that he can do what he wants. I'm only stating that his restaurant relies on the patronage of others. His car and house and television do not.

To drive away potential customers just to make a cheap political point seems like a bad business idea to me. He's a restaurateur. Not a politician.

You're twice the retard I am.

This is where someone points out that money isnt everything.

Icarus has a right to say the owner of this place supports gay marriage.
Dave has a right to say i will never eat at that restaurant since the owner likes them gays so much.
Ip has the right to say dave is not ok for thinking gays deserve fewer privileges than straights and i will never share my coffee pot texting technology with him.

Everyone the right to do these things. They also have the choice to say even though we disagree on some things, that doesnt necessarily mean that person is horribly wrong and should be ostracized.
Opinion is simply that. Its okay for a christian to be friends with an athiest. Its okay for a vegan to eat at a place that serves meat.
Im fed up with the hypocrisy in everyone saying there is no simple black and white answers and then trying to force everyone else into this camp or that.
What if your favorite color was yellow and icarus posted that green is the official color of the owl. Would that make you not want to eat there? Granted its a silly analogy, but it kind of isnt.
Until people open their minds to the reality that there isnt just one answer to the worlds many issues, i dont see how society will ever progress.

I'm of the belief that if you want to make social change - take the bigoted motherfuckers money from them and donate it to your favorite 'Fags Who Marry Fags' activist group. Don't just turn them away at the door.

I'm sure McDonalds, Burger King, etc. lobby for all manner of disgusting things which they would never advertise in public.

See what you did icarus?? You turned your lovely food thread into another tnl political piss mop competition (which might not be so bad if dave didn't love asparagus so).

Yeah, I'm pretty bored at work today. To be fair though - I didn't turn this thread or Xbox 360 thread into piss mop. Someone else did, then I came with my piss.

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Originally Posted by Doc Holliday

piss mop

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farthammer

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Originally Posted by Some Stupid Japanese Name

This is where someone points out that money isnt everything.

Icarus has a right to say the owner of this place supports gay marriage.
Dave has a right to say i will never eat at that restaurant since the owner likes them gays so much.
Ip has the right to say dave is not ok for thinking gays deserve fewer privileges than straights and i will never share my coffee pot texting technology with him.

Everyone the right to do these things. They also have the choice to say even though we disagree on some things, that doesnt necessarily mean that person is horribly wrong and should be ostracized.
Opinion is simply that. Its okay for a christian to be friends with an athiest. Its okay for a vegan to eat at a place that serves meat.
Im fed up with the hypocrisy in everyone saying there is no simple black and white answers and then trying to force everyone else into this camp or that.
What if your favorite color was yellow and icarus posted that green is the official color of the owl. Would that make you not want to eat there? Granted its a silly analogy, but it kind of isnt.
Until people open their minds to the reality that there isnt just one answer to the worlds many issues, i dont see how society will ever progress.

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No, it is a silly analogy.

Look, I wish it were not so, but in this country, money = power = policy influence. More so now than in a long time. Maybe business owner mcgee just hates gay people and leaves it there. Or maybe he hates them and donates to whatever groups are out there advocating for these groups. Without knowing for myself, I'd rather just not give the guy my money knowing it could end up with one of those groups.

Unless business owner mcgee is really corporate board mcgee, i dont see how his piddly donations would make a difference. Let him throw his money out the window. Chances are the leader of the gay hate group is gay himself and is secretely funneling the money into GLAD.
In the meantime, anyone with half a brain knows that abortion will never go away, gays will have all the rights straights do, and so on. It takes time, but america always moves forward. Aside from prohibition, has there been a time when we actively went backwards?

I think Ic did the right thing.

He lives in the American south. And if it is anything like any of the states between Texas and Georgia, there is probably more than the lions share of people using their businesses to share hateful bigoted things. I can't drive anywhere for more than an hour without seeing something about "got jesus?" or cross in a yard, or something with a mom holding a baby, trying to guilt me out of abortion. I forget if it is between here and Atlanta, or between here and Birmingham, but there has been a billboard on one lot for ten years that says "go to church, or you'll go to hell" with a demon on it.

I think NC or whatever will get by with just one liberal business owner post.

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Originally Posted by Some Stupid Japanese Name

Aside from prohibition, has there been a time when we actively went backwards?

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I can think of a few black people that died because the south wanted to,

icarus should let the customers express their own political beliefs through the food. Example: bacon and eggs - the server shall ask the customer if they support gay marriage, if so, they get one egg and one bacon strip on the right side of the plate and two bacon strips on the left, cooked to perfection; if they say no, the two strips on the left will be charred under a flame of 190 grain alcohol.

I actually think this is all interesting. This is the feedback for something the restaurant did.

It's undoubtedly bad business for me to have written that, but The Owl, on a philosophical level, is Much more than a restaurant. It's a vehicle for change. For real. I have multiple discussions every day about the way we run the business - extremely socialistically. Many people respond well to it. Some think I'm silly for "giving away money". My goals with the restaurant are no less than changing what people expect out of an inexpensive meal, and to challenge the way a business can be run. Which sometimes means standing up and speaking out against what I perceive as bullshit. I'm not telling anyone they can't eat here if they hate gays, and I'm not saying only gays can eat here. The post was written very precisely. It does not espouse heroism on us, nor hate on anyone else. It's a plainly written appeal to reason. But only that. An appeal.

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

I can think of a few black people that died because the south wanted to,

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Yes, there will always be factions like that. There will always be people who want abortion done away with. It will never happen.

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Originally Posted by Doc Holliday

icarus should let the customers express their own political beliefs through the food. Example: bacon and eggs - the server shall ask the customer if they support gay marriage, if so, they get one egg and one bacon strip on the right side of the plate and two bacon strips on the left, cooked to perfection; if they say no, the two strips on the left will be charred under a flame of 190 grain alcohol.

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If they aren't pro-choice then the egg is served raw.

I think you're also forgotten the civil war. That happened because some rich southern bastards wanted to move backward, politically. They wanted to revert to a system that gave them more political and economic power than what they saw on the horizon.

Yeah? How did that turn out for them.
But please, keep proving my point for me.
Also: im no historian, but i thought they wanted to keep the status quo.

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Yeah? How did that turn out for them.

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How did that turn out for everyone?

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Also: im no historian, but i thought they wanted to keep the status quo.

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Dividing the nation into a series of weaker powers was not that status quo. That would have been more like how it was previously with the colonies.

And I think we both know that the conservative idea of the line between the status quo and regression are blurred.

I meant as far as keeping slavery going, but i realize that that wasnt really the impetus for the war.

The fun thing about owning your own business is that you can really say and do whatever you want, as long as it falls within legal limits (usually.)
That's the "bonus" for putting the money, work, and time into establishing a brick-and-mortar outlet for whatever goods you are selling. Sometimes it works out in your favor and you get lots of money and press for your beliefs and/or actions, sometimes it doesn't.

I definitely don't think it's bad business, icarus. In fact, the best thing that could happen is a creation of controversy around your restaurant - you'd get TONS of free press.

The only problem is that when you argue against liberials, they blog against you.

You argue against conservatives, they burn your business and house down. Maybe even beat you to death and leave you in a ditch.

I don't think Ic has to worry about that because of a FB post. But conservatives are traditionally more aggressive.

I don't know, we don't have that problem in CA. If a business blogged about supporting gay marriage everyone would be like "yeah ok! awesome!" except one person who is a transplant from the midwest.

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

The only problem is that when you argue against liberials, they blog against you.

You argue against conservatives, they burn your business and house down. Maybe even beat you to death and leave you in a ditch.

I don't think Ic has to worry about that because of a FB post. But conservatives are traditionally more aggressive.

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I kno rite

wat?

I would be more surprised if icarus didn't say something. From everything icarus has done with the restaurant, I've never seen him try to run his business for pure business. His manifesto has been fuck the establishment, this is how I want things to be. From how he chooses ingredients to how he pays his employees, to not taking reservations, he's made very deliberate decisions that do not follow typical business sense. A lot of people like that, especially the ones with similar opinions. They're going to support a person who is openly working for a cause over a business just trying to maximize profits.

The issue people have with issues being brought up by restaurants is that people go there for leisure, often to escape news and other more stressful things. A political diatribe or mandate can easily ruin that environment.

That being said icarus is very much running this restaurant for himself and makes no attempt to hide it. For the type of establishment hes running this probably helps his career more than anything.

I still don't see what the big deal is. A person said a thing. Yip-de-shit. You knew what kind of person icarus was from the beginning, and he's never been anything but 100% clear that his restaurant is an extension of himself.

James

Tonight we served Rumpus Punch! - a recipe we found written by Charles Dickens for Rum/Brandy/Black Tea punch.

and Hot Sauce Mac n' Cheese w/ Lava - bechamel sauce mac n cheese w 4 hot sauces, black pepper, cheddar and goat cheese, done souflee style (egged and baked). Xanthan gum'd hot sauce "lava". It's bullshit food, and not what we do, but was fun for a lark night.

You serve Rumpus Punch on the same day you openly support gay marriage.

Nice.

I'm heading to Raleigh, NC this weekend from WI for a 10 week contract. I'm seriously considering taking a detour out to The Owl. Maybe even a weekend visit. Looks to be about 4-5 hours away.

We'll be here.

Trying to deconstruct a cuban sandwich. I'm famous for my cuban sandwich, but I'm fucking sick of making it - and that's not really what we do.

So far the idea is: pickle wrapped pork rillette (mustard mixed in), crisped country ham, swiss fondue, r garlic mayo, tostone stack, toast point.

Mental note: when I get there I'll order a cuban sandwich.

He should make a gay Cuban sandwich.

That's when you use a whole pickle and leave it sticking out from between the buns.

your idea sounds great icarus. love the tostones

I think the country ham is gonna be too salty!

The kind we use is like prosciutto.

It's actually called Country Prosciutto.

Man, I love Cuban sandwiches. Send me a frozen one.

I actually tried freezing one and putting it on the press since my dad was bothering me about it. Doesn't work at all.

:(

I am left with wanting a Cuban sandwich. The Mexicans here can't make that shit.

It looks like this now.



"salad" - 5
root vegetable gel / "soil" / vinaigrette / many garnishes
(gelled root veg juices with cubed veg suspended, ground toasted pumpernickel w/ various oils, champagne-hazelnut vin)

fruit - 7
custard / spices / rhubarb
(melon/country ham custard w/ pine nut "rind", cured fruit, rhubarb puree)

"pasta" - 6
zucchini / carrot / jicama / tomato / vin / pesto
(trio of vegetable noodles, each with a different sauce)

chick pea - 5
romesco / parsley-mayo
(chick pea fries with 2 sauces)


duck - 15
elements of buffalo wing
(duck leg confit then fried, celery root w/ preserved lemon puree, blue cheese creme, tots)

trout - 16
polenta / roe / horseradish / greens
(creamy polenta, smoked trout roe, horseradish/salt foam, marinated kale)

cuban - 14
rillette / country ham / swiss / mustard / mayo / toast
(yeah)

tofu - 12
arugula / mustard miso / chick pea / ponzu
(carryover from current menu. not ready to give it up yet)

ravioli - 15
fresh pasta / egg / tomato / bacon / pea / mozzarella
(house made ravioli, each with a different element of carbonara in them)

tasting - 35
chef's choice of six courses


dessert - 2 / 4 / 6
(varies daily - costs one of those)

I really want to try buffalo duck.

Me too, for the duck.

A lot of restaurants, I always wonder how the chef doesn't get bored doing the same dishes day in and day out. Do you have a set menu to go with these, or is this the whole of the menu and you change it on a near-daily basis?

James

It's the whole of the menu.

This'll be the third total revision in as many months. Then we do anywhere from 3-5 specials per week.

We have a very short attention span.

If you look on the Owl facebook page we just added the Tiny Tasting as a bar-only option (pics there)


Then there are the events. We're doing 8 events in the next 2 months and 3/4 dishes is something new on those menus specific to the theme. Most are 4-5 courses, but one is 12.

The only chef in town whose food/restaurant I respect came in last night and ended up staying till 3am talking about how he wants to work with us on new projects - and that he's going to actively start sending his clientele our way.

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The Owl and The Greenville Beer Exchange Present

a psychosensory dinner in 12 parts



salad
jever pils

root / beer
"root / beer" cocktail

soup
caldera amber

cheese n fruit
stone smoked porter

duck cake
young's double chocolate stout

buffalo wings
great divide hercules double ipa

cuban
dfh my antonia

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intermezzo

bbq / ol' chub

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breakfast
coffee

raw
bell's oarsman

dry quad
ovila

almond joy
anderson valley summer solstice



fin

And what the new regular menu is looking like.

Trying to roll it out next week.

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salad - 5
brussels / kumquat / tomato / "soil" / vinaigrette

brefix - 7
yolk / bacon / coffee / tomato / toast

ribbons - 6
zucchini / carrot / jicama / tomato / vin / pesto

melon - 7
watermelon / speck / cantaloupe / star anise



duck - 15
elements of buffalo wing

trout - 16
polenta / roe / horseradish / greens

cuban - 14
rillette / bacon / mustard / swiss-mayo / biscuit

tofu - 12
arugula / mustard miso / chick pea / ponzu

pasta - 15
sorrel / egg / corn / p. lemon / asparagus

tasting - 25 / 35
chef's choice of four or six courses



dessert
always evolving

pretentiousness
always free

delicious trout and tofu.

Dats TROFU son

liquid apple pie.

Seriously.

Liquified puff pastry / apple gel / whipped cream / bruleed sugar.

A friend of ours made a little movie about us.

http://vimeo.com/42594896

"that is fat duck breast, dayum!" lol

so cool of you to let the waiters and waitresses wear street clothes. Fuck uniforms.

Interview!

http://www.journalwatchdog.com/busin...red-at-the-owl

Dude! Where's your trademark fuck-the-man hobo goatee?

very nice.

edit: Doc, a man just doesn't ask another man those kinds of questions!

Nice interview, but I thought the no reservations policy was rescinded?

We take res for parties of 7 and above only.

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Dude! Where's your trademark fuck-the-man hobo goatee?

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It's in the "Bugging you thread." Keep up.

I had a skin thing that made the skin crack under the goatee. I tried and tried to heal it, btu it wasn't happening. Gotta start over. I cut all my hair off in mourning.

You know what I think is the worst? When my chick cons me into taking her to Olive Garden and I have to wait an hour just to be seated. Olive Garden isn't worth waiting five minutes for, let alone an hour.
A place like the Owl? That is worth waiting for.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

We take res for parties of 7 and above only.

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Ah alright.

If I went up to your bartender and asked him to recommend me a drink, or asked him to recommend me his favorite what would I get?

a punch in the face!

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Ah alright.

If I went up to your bartender and asked him to recommend me a drink, or asked him to recommend me his favorite what would I get?

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A bag of pee

The bartender would tell you, but he'd then need a new favorite because the drink would have become too popular.

A hot load of semen in a warm bowl of vinegar.

Kirk's the kinda dude that makes his own bitters.

He doesn't really have a "specialty." He'd ask you some questions about your likes and dislikes and then craft something based on that.

Awesome.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

The bartender would tell you, but he'd then need a new favorite because the drink would have become too popular.

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NICE!

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

Interview!

http://www.journalwatchdog.com/busin...red-at-the-owl

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LOL at the comments on that article. Animal activists, curmudgeons, think-of-the-homeless, oh my!

HOLY FUCK.

Over $2000 on a wednesday.

That's BANANAS for us.