Do you actually know anything about anything to discredit that statement?
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Do you actually know anything about anything to discredit that statement?
well, I actually understand how to program. And I've done some e-marketing and done some research on e-marketing and social marketing. And I've done some research and given a presentation or two on the relationship of social media and economic health.
And I know enough about myself to know that when I scoffed at the idea of facebook being "exceptional" that it wasn't for personal reasons.
Drew can't argue that something is exceptional because it exist and people use it. And countering my disbelief with personal attacks isn't a valid argument either.
The reason I didn't mention any specifics about Facebook is, well... because you didn't. You just said it sucks after I mentioned it was good. Did you read that critiquing method online in between your wikipedia skimming on emarketing or your vague Google research on social marketing?
Facebook does a great job because it meets the three cornerstone criteria of interactive design -- usability, usefulness and desirability. It has all three in spades. It does more right than it does wrong by a long shot. It's also why no copycat has managed to best them.
And since you've thought it a good idea to get in to academic penis measuring about the subject I think I should remind you that I've been actually marketing successfully since around 2006. And by that I don't mean I've "done some research". I've been working at big and medium sized agencies on the accounts of product you've actually used. Not to mention my current enrollment and study of interactive media at one of the most reputable colleges in Canada. My course average is 96.7% going in to mid-terms so things are fantastic -- thanks for asking.
Most people would counter you with personal attacks because the idea that facebook is anything short of exceptional is ridiculous, from both a technical and social/marketing/whateverthefuck standpoint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
But please, share with us your thoughts on the many shortcomings of facebook, either on a technical or marketing level because you didn't even specify which angle you were loling at.
I think facebooks interface could be improved, and i think the whole social networking site format is pretty stupid. It has the relative inconvenience of email crossed with the inane banter of IM. I check my fb occasionally on my commute and post maybe once a month. G+ is a much cleaner interface, but all i really use is the huddle feature (which is awesome).
Actually, I said the site wasn't exceptional and that you were full of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
It is possible to think something is not outstanding, but not think it sucks. Facebook is adequate. Saying it is exceptional is like saying the Model T was an exceptional car. It wasn't. It was adequate and affordable. People lost interest once other cars that met their taste and price range became available. The same will happen to Facebook. It isn't exceptional just because it is functional.
You're becoming just as reactionary as Razor. "oh god, someone doesn't agree with me, they must be taking a completely opposite extreme stance. The Horror."
good job - sureQuote:
Facebook does a great job because it meets the three cornerstone criteria of interactive design -- usability, usefulness and desirability. It has all three in spades. It does more right than it does wrong by a long shot.
great job - maybe on the right day
exceptional - probably not
No one has been able to copy them because of the size of their userbase. Not because of the merits of the software. People get fed up with the site all the time, but don't leave because their friends are already on facebook. Or they leave, and only use it on the rare instance that they need some contact information or to message someone that they don't have in their email/ph# list. All someone needs to do to compete with facebook is figure out a way to get their userbase up to that size. Google probably has a good shot at that, if they bootstrap off of the size of their email users.Quote:
It's also why no copycat has managed to best them.
marketing is a stretch for what you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
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Not to mention my current enrollment and study of interactive media at one of the most reputable colleges in Canada. My course average is 96.7% going in to mid-terms so things are fantastic -- thanks for asking.
The front end for facebook might not be anything special, but the server side stuff and the business model would qualify as exceptional.
If you're going for an insult, you should have bolded 'colleges'.
yes, there server shit is so awesome
how did I forget that
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I forgot that you're an IT expert.
What a fucking idiot.