Also known as "sensible people who don't dump their entire budgets into this bullshit like we do."Quote:
Originally Posted by TobalRox
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Also known as "sensible people who don't dump their entire budgets into this bullshit like we do."Quote:
Originally Posted by TobalRox
So when people ask why XYZ game is still $50 on Wii, now you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Some Stupid Japanese Name
I recognize the fact that there are infidels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
Localizing an older game is a much lower bar than developing a new one in terms of commercial viability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
I did specify new Wii games for a reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Some Stupid Japanese Name
Really? Just Dance is your shining example of a game that is made by sensible people that isn't bullshit? Man, this defense has nowhere to go but up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
I misread new as in not used. As far as new releases go, yeah, not too much sells that isnt mario party 9. Ive yet to sell an mlb 2k12. Never sold a single copy of Fortune Street. Havent sold any of that rhythm game.
I didn't say it was "made by sensible people" but sure, words in my mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
To me, it's all bullshit, which means it's all good. You pick your level of bullshit and enjoy it. I think people who get stuff like Just Dance, or like 1 game a year, or just get whatever happens to be popular in their circles, and don't feel compelled to suck at the Golden Dick of Gaming to be "sensible." There's nothing stupid or ignorant about NOT spending hundreds, or thousands of dollars trying to keep up with industry/hardcore trends. It's just a fucking different way of enjoying something that, by all accounts, really isn't that important to begin with.
The notion that people who don't buy into new hardware every cycle and act like previous, popular platforms don't exist, don't count, or shouldn't/wouldn't be catered to (call it the Yoshi Effect) astounds me. Is the core gamer whatever that fucking narcissistic and if so, should a developer really be trying so hard to appeal to the market that demands the most and gives the least, or a more "sensible" audience that just buys whatever the fuck they find fun, even if it is kinda dumb?
How do you figure that those that demand the most give the least? How many "sensible," by your twisted definition, people do I negate by myself for example? If they buy one $50 game a year, it's probably 25-30, and that's since I've been keeping myself on a monthly entertainment budget.
The developers should be catering to whatever the publishers tell them to, and the publishers should be catering to whatever maximizes their profits. This is not hard.
It's the idiots who don't vote with their dollars that are the problem. If the "core gamers" (I hate that term) were at all selective or intelligent about what they bought, then they could control exactly what the publishers tell the developers to make. Instead, they buy four 360s, because their first three broke, and they don't value themselves or their money enough to not support that kind of bullshit. And then they go trade in their used games at GameStop for pennies on the dollar to buy the next Project $10 release and some DLC that is already on the disc.
well, it's all a matter of how many Yoshis you think are out there. If you buy 25-30 games a year, that would still leave a lot of Yoshis to make up for the sheer volume of people buying "casual" crap like Just Dance, Call of Duty, Angry Birds, et al.Quote:
How do you figure that those that demand the most give the least? How many "sensible," by your twisted definition, people do I negate by myself for example? If they buy one $50 game a year, it's probably 25-30, and that's since I've been keeping myself on a monthly entertainment budget.
You're also proving my point - what sensible person buys 25-30 games PER YEAR on a conservative, monthly entertainment budget? As opposed to spreading that money around on all sorts of things that one can be a part of in life?
I'm not saying this like I'm above it - I just bought 7 games this month alone. I'm not even saying there's a wrong way to spend your own money. Which is all the more reason I find little wrong with other people spending their money in other ways other than I would. What I am saying is why begrudge someone so much for a decision that they don't lose sleep over, especially when that person cares very little on what you think about their choices?
In that context, sensible people are those who don't feel so invested in this that they put heavy amounts of money, time, emotion, and even ire into every little facet of the hobby and still get just as much (or more) entertainment out of it.
I agree 100% - which again, is all the more reason I'm baffled by core gamers. They bitch and wail that Bioware sells out to EA, or EA ruined them, but Bioware agreed to partnering with EA. That's also why I'm further baffled that, when a game like Just Dance or Guitar Hero sells well, core gamers are angered that publishers continue to make these games.Quote:
The developers should be catering to whatever the publishers tell them to, and the publishers should be catering to whatever maximizes their profits. This is not hard.
Agree with this too. Core gamers like to pretend like we're more refined than someone who buys a game a year or owns a Wii, but look at the kinds of things endorsed with our wallets. While we're more invested in spending money and emotion, little is done to make sure that it's pointed in the direction of those with good business practices. Which is another reason I see the less invested as more sensible - they care less and it's not surprising that they give money to anyone regardless of the business end. It's not some deeply important decision to them anyway so why would they bother?Quote:
It's the idiots who don't vote with their dollars that are the problem. If the "core gamers" (I hate that term) were at all selective or intelligent about what they bought, then they could control exactly what the publishers tell the developers to make. Instead, they buy four 360s, because their first three broke, and they don't value themselves or their money enough to not support that kind of bullshit. And then they go trade in their used games at GameStop for pennies on the dollar to buy the next Project $10 release and some DLC that is already on the disc.
(This could branch out into an entire discussion about consumer responsibility in general)
All the more reason I feel like we (as in the core/whatever crowd) are mired in just as much bullshit. I find myself on three different ends of dealing with that. Just accept that its all dumb entertainment and bear no grudge against those who won't like what I do. Continuing to buy what I find fun while following specific developer/genre efforts. Or becoming incredibly selective in what I get, only rewarding those who are taking the industry in a direction I want to see it, creatively & business-wise.
So yeah...makes sense to me that it's being worked on for the Wii. Big install base and it's not like all those who got one moved onto another platform. Nice to see a developer consider these things than just deem it dead because another console is announced or on the way.
They also preorder like chumps.