Kickstarter's All-purpose Speculatory Thread of Dreams

Only on TNL can ROI be measured in emotional "value."

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Only on TNL can ROI be measured in emotional "value."

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So you buy games on Steam for their collector's value? Do you buy all that high end computer hardware because it's going to appreciate in monetary value? Don't be dense.

Emotional value is the primary reason anybody spends money on this hobby. It's obviously worth something to you.

I sure as hell don't consider any of that an investment.

edit: In fact, it's quite the opposite. I give myself an entertainment budget, because it's purely a cost, just like the electric bill.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

I sure as hell don't consider any of that an investment.

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I didn't say it was. But you spend money for emotional value, so you understand that exchange.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

But you spend money for emotional value, so you understand that exchange.

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Clearly.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

It's a an investment, with all the risk that term implies.

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This is still flat out wrong. "All the risk [investment] implies" absolutely includes financial gain. In fact it's the primary risk that people investing are interested in.

You place a quantifiable monetary value on the emotional value you get from a game, and gauge its "worth," so you could do the same thing in an investment equation.

Sorry, no. I value not dying of heat stroke in the summer too, but my electric bill to run the air conditioning is not an investment.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Sorry, no. I value not dying of heat stroke in the summer too, but my electric bill to run the air conditioning is not an investment.

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Did Fe26 hack your account? It hurts my brain how dumb this sentence is in the context of this discussion.

I understand you can pay for things that have value without it being an investment. I think we're all pretty clear on that, but thank you for pointing it out.

But you can also take risks that potentially offer greater value than what you put in (i.e. investment). My point is that you understand how financial reward and emotional value can be quantifiably equivalent.

I guess it's about the frame of reference and not totally unlike voting.

If you believe that your money is required for the game to exist, then you do get something out of the investment.

It's inevitable that any debate with Frog will eventual devolve into being insulted.

I'm not sure what part he thinks I'm missing, since my life is clearly worth more to me than the cost of my electric bill.