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I'm probably even in a smaller minority. The new Bonds just do not do it for me. I really did not care for the last 2, and I tried to go into this one not looking at it as a Bond film but a whole new series, but it didn't really work. No doubt the action and visuals are incredible, but it is just not Bond to me. I hold the older Bond films sacred and I would just rather go back and watch them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony
It's the "back in my day" syndrome. There are quite a few good old Bond movies but more of them than not are utter shit. This new rebirth is more consistently good than the others.
The action scene with the sniper in Shanghai in Skyfall was one of the most stylish fights of the series IMO.
I agree with you about the nostalgia. I know that the new films are very well done. I am just incapable of viewing them as Bond. I also think it is impossible to bring back that old style of Bond these days. I loved GoldenEye, but after that the movies just were not very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
I think I get that. I just don't necessarily agree. There was only one thing that bothered me about this movie and that was the cyber attack magic that seemed too easy for its own good. In Mission Impossible you have spies readjusting satellites and climbing through vents to get in to mainframes, etc. In Bond it's an off-screen button push. I realize that this movie was more about Bond, personally, than a grand international opera, but some technical specificity would have been nice.
Small gripe.
By "in universe," do you mean "in the same universe?" If so, absolutely. I'm surprised to see that there are people who think otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheebs
Yeah. The unseen "trail of breadcrumbs" with which Q was asked to draw Anton Chigurh to Skyfall was pretty egregious. A major, presumably interesting plot point was glossed over, kind of like the haphazard treatment of Dent and Rachel's abductions in The Dark Knight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
You can't just make huge leaps in narrative like that and expect audience credulity. It would be like showing Luke lying on Hoth's crust listening to Obi Wan about "the... Dagobah system," then screen wipe to him in a Celtics jersey drilling a telekinetic three pointer in an empty gym, willing the ball back into his hands, and Han yelling from the bleachers, "You're tellin' me you learned how to do all this in a swamp from something called Yo Dah?"
He plugged in a super computer evil geniuses laptop into his network. Really?
Yeah, uh... yeah. Hey, good flick other than that stuff, though!
I liked the movie, but agree the series has only superficial details in common with classic Bond. The pacing and structure of the movies are completely different. Like remember when there was a certain mystery to Bond, and he had to figure out what the villain was up to. In these movies there's just some random shit that happens until the villain finally confronts Bond, and just spills what he's up to. Not much hard thinking needed for Bond lately. He's traded that for freerunning.
You really going to hold that up to all the times when the villains make a super elaborate device that gives him plenty of time to escape? They're all silly movies.