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I'd really like to buy this board :(
So that Avok guy looks like a blatant rip off of Tusk from KI2, at 1:38 he's doing the exact same moves, even down to the Spider Web! And then they turn into animals via Bloody Roar? Looks like it would be fun, anyhow.
What game cab is that? It's got happy fish on it!
The guy that owns this is the same tool who owns both known working copies of Marble Madness 2 and won't release the ROM.
What a dick.
He really is. Someone asked what he wanted to buy one of them, and he named some outrageous price, and when they actually came up with the money he refused to sell and said he just made up the number to discourage them. Fuck that guy.
What's his deal, anyway? Sounds like you know a lot about the guy. Eccentric collector? Crazed madman?
Perhaps asshole is the proper term to describe him?
He doesn't give a shit about "the community" and there's no rule that people have to give up their rare goods so they can be disseminated across the Internet.
This is true, however...Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
That's a douche move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Hmm...I wonder how many other collectors possess working editions of cancelled high-profile games?
I hope he butters one up and slides it between his butt cheeks.
Obviously. He's still an asshole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
Nothing against cigs but I could not care less about this shitty game and this guy's rare collection.
I've never understood the mentality of proto collectors. It seems to be mostly about being able to say "haha! I own something you don't!" more than anything else. Acquiring rare stuff to then sell to the highest bidder is one thing, and keeping a private collection is perfectly legitimate. But let's be realistic; it's not like these are one-of-a-kind pieces of art that can be displayed. It's a PCB that no one ever really sees.
But, if that makes some people feel complete, then so be it. However, flaunting it in people's faces and acting like a douche is not cool.
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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Yeah Atari, that was SUPER necessary.
It was a story that HAD to be told.
Yeah, I read that Wikipedia page too. I was wondering what point of that author's career was represented by writing a novel based on a cancelled dinosaur fighting game...the low point, or the lowest point.
Lowest point is probably writing Yaoi fan fiction by commission. Although the Primal Rage novel was probably the last stop before that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
Since when does someone have to break a rule to be an asshole?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
He's an atari fatty prototype collector. The two worst types of classic game collectors, rolled into one.
I've dealt with prototype collectors on occasion, and they're really weird. I had a chance to buy a TG16 Off The Wall prototype, but the guy selling it made me want to sign an agreement stating that I would never ever dump the roms. In retrospect, I should've agreed, then sold it to a friend for a dollar, who would then sell it back to me.
On the other hand, most cancelled games are cancelled for a reason. I've played Marble Madness II, and it is a pretty bad game. Since this is the sequel to something that was already terrible, I have no doubt that it is awful too.
I totally need a BioFREAKS arcade cab, brah.
There are a lot of cancelled Atari protos. There's like at least three Hard Drivin' sequels that never came out. Including one where wings come out of your car and you can fly.
At least we have this;
I remember liking Primal Rage when it came out. That Rise of the Robots video just reminded me of a game I wish I could never remember.
Don't knock Rise of the Robots, it has ray-traced graphics.
That's what draws you in.
Don't forget its amazing ADAPTIVE AI that learns from and specifically adjusts to your individual fighting style!
Odd that it never adapted to my technique of just pressing the X button over and over.
Also the Brian May soundtrack that consists of silence during every stage. I thought that was just some kind of incompatibility with my system for years before I realized it was just actual false advertising and the only music was during the company logo bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
At least that arcade version allows you to jump over your opponent.
I remember the SNES version had some cool tunes...just not Brian May tunes, despite pimping him on the box.
That game was all sorts of fucked up.
Yeah the later console ports had some kind of techno music.
The story behind that goes that they had signed him to do the soundtrack, but he took too long, so they just shipped it with no music, but a few seconds of an existing Brian May guitar solo over the opening logo, and advertised it as having a Brian May soundtrack anyway.
Wikipedia to the rescue!
I kind of want to try Rise 2 now. It's supposedly merely mediocre and not outright terrible.
They needed the power of 32-bit to realize their vision.
Rise of the Robots... LOL, remember the "game you are currently playing sucks" warning gif! Coming right up.Quote:
Originally Posted by kedawa
I feel that the guy hoarding the Marble Madness II and now Primal Rage II protos is trying to flaunt that shit in our faces. I hear him saying "Nyah nyah you guys ain't shit becuzz u will NEVER, ever, every play Primal Rage II or Marble Madness II! Nyah nyah nyah nyah!!!!!!!111!!!111!eleven thousand one hundred and eleven!!111" Oh keep rubbing it in, bastard.
*fake Bud Light RMOG commercial coming up*
[commercial announcer]
Bud Light presents... Real men of Genius!
[Budweiser Real Men of Genius singer, Dave Bickler]
Rea-al Men of Genius!
[announcer]
Today we salute YOU, Mr. Rub-it-in Proto Collector.
[Dave]
Mister Rub-it-in Proto Colle-eh-ctor!
[announcer]
One of those guys who likes to think he's special because he's got something the rest of the world will never have. Specifically an unreleased proto Atari Games arcade machine.
[Dave]
I got this game... and you don't man. And you ne-eh-ver will nah!
[announcer]
You like teasing the average Joe with your rare prototype one-of-a-kind games.
Someone makes an offer to buy, you quote a price.
[Dave]
You quo-ote a pri-ice!
[announcer]
They come up with the money and you welch on the offer.
[Dave]
Oh that's cruel now!
[Female gospel choir]
It's a low blow!
[announcer]
You say "Look at me! I got the rare proto, ain't I special?"
[Dave]
Gee I'm so-oh cooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ool!
[announcer]
And you'll have no competition on the Twin Galaxies scoreboard for world records. Even if you can't break 5,320 on Marble Madness II- you're the only guy with this game. In the whole world, that is.
[Dave]
Can't have anyone beating your sa-ad scores, now? Mr. Rub-it-in Proto Colle-eh-eh-eh-ector!
*end commercial*
Oh, and he actually dumped the game and compiled a modified version of MAME so he can play it on his computer and still won't release it.
This is the sort of cause I wish Anon would take on instead of DDOSing Sony.
That's a new level of asshattery.
WB Games needs to get MM2 and PR2 out on some collection for XBL/PSN/Steam, as well as individual DLC versions for iOS and Vita (touchscreen or tilt just might work well for MM2). AFAIR they got Atari Games' IP in the deal (look at Midway Origins, with the first MM and others from Atari Games).
They don't have them. There isn't a big vault with all those games in it. There are two working copies of MM2 in existence, anywhere. That guy has them.Quote:
Originally Posted by gameoverDude
There might be other Primal Rage 2s somewhere. There's a bad dump in MAME of it, but not a good, working one.
WB would still have the rights, I'm sure- even if they don't have an actual copy of the games. Rights don't mean jack if they don't have the ROM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
After a little searching, I found a story with the truth: The guy who sold the two MM2 units to the owner made a request to him that he not release the ROMs. The last sentence in the below quote is the kicker: while he's under no hard duress to refrain from releasing the ROMs, to release them would likely ruin his reputation with proto sellers who may have similar requests. He has made donations of other ROMs to MAME before. OTOH if WB wanted a ROM dump to release MM2/PR2 in a future Midway compilation, I'm sure that particular proto seller would understand. His record of 671,050 (probably an all clear) on MM2 will probably never be challenged.
We're all blaming the wrong person. For the lack of MM2 in MAME, blame the seller instead.
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Originally Posted by joemagiera @ arcade-museum.com forums
I wonder if he's got a will with a request for all his protos to have the ROMs released upon his death.
If the sellers are selling the games, why the fuck would they care if someone dumps the ROMs? They don't even own them anymore.
These super-hardcore types are fucking nuts.
If these games did get released, we'd play them for five minutes and then never bother with them again. Complaining about it is just giving these cock jockeys what they want.
There's only one way to find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
I can just imagine some clueless nephew hearing that clause in the will, and saying "Well, I guess this means we have to take those old wooden games to the dump."
I wouldn't give up something like Taito's Recalhorn (I'm sure thankful for that one being preserved) to get MM2 or PR2. Surely there are other missing proto games of that caliber. Since the owner of the MM2 machines has donated various ROMs to MAME, it'd be a shame to have proto sellers refusing to deal with him.
That said, hopefully the guy who sold him the MM2 protos will sunset his request someday. Let's not hear any April Fool's jokes about this when 4/1 rolls around. ;)
Neat.
I hope they don't dump the ROMs any time soon. As cool as it would be to play PR2 on MAME for half an hour and then forget about it, I'd rather see the arcade keep it as an exclusive to draw in more business.
It's been dumped for ages, but they haven't gotten it fully working.
Makes me miss Clayfighter. Those were fun, goofy games.
You and I remember Clayfighter very differently.
Lots of nostalgia over here. Stop motion animation all day.
I dominated the Clayfighter tournament at my local Blockbuster Video. Even though they wouldn't let me configure my controller. Taffy 4-life.
Woah, this seems expensive.
SNES ClayFighter was a fun console fighter for the time.
The N64 games were complete garbage.
The SNES game was kind of garbage too, but it was garbage at a time when most fighting games were garbage and that was fairly acceptable.
I remember playing the first Primal Rage on the Sega Channel during the summer, some kind of promotion going on with it too.
I remember seeing it in the arcade and IronPlant saying, "Oh cool. Street Fighter with critters."
I remember seeing the original and going "HOLY SHIT A FIGHTING GAME WITH DINOSAURS!"
50 cents later...
"Man, this sucks ass. In gonna go play Street Fighter."
Street Fighter was all 50 Cent would play, then he'd get pissed off if anyone else played DJ.
The coolest thing about Primal Rage (besides it being dinosaurs) was eating the people in the background.
I'm pretty surprised people have fond memories of Clayfighter for anything besides the look.
Human bowling and king king farts.
And Ring King blowjobs.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...chmentid=74521
EDIT: google was just g
Wait, how come Primal Rage 2 is all giant people. Where's the monsters? Where's the Dinos? Where is the Primal?
Watch the video.
No.
Fight me, cunt.
A punch where you turn into a crab for 2 seconds doesn't count. Every game has a punch where you turn into a crab for 2 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
There is an option to be a Dino the whole time, and there is an option to have it as a stance change.
CRAB BATTLE!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheebs
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Originally Posted by Rumpy