Link with press releaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Joystiq
I'm going to receive one hell of a lot of soon-to-be-kindergartener pressure to break my years-long boycott of Activision.
Link with press releaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Joystiq
I'm going to receive one hell of a lot of soon-to-be-kindergartener pressure to break my years-long boycott of Activision.
It will be shit.
I'm sure Activition will put out whatever-the-hell-Transformers-Prime-something-level software out, but hopefully they can deliver a great side-scrolling beat 'em up. They won't!
They could just make a modern version of the arcade game and I think everyone would be cool. Hell, just change the logo
It's Activision, so you can be sure they'll release 12 versions this year alone. By fall, you'll be sick to death of the turtles.
Yoshi questions my taste in games and then creates a thread for a Nickelodeon game.
Glass houses.
It's not just Nickelodeon.
It's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!
Heroes in a half shell
Turtle Power!
I don't know, the show is actually good, the little man loves it, hopefully the games are halfway decent too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
Is it actually good, or are we being nostalgic?
I thought the Thundercats reboot was pretty cool, but that one didn't last very long.
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Originally Posted by Brettmatic
These are both true statements. I tune into the reboot when it's on, I also watched the Thundercats reboot too. Both are/were great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
The fact that this question matters puts it ahead of Tekken. Tekken was never good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
resurrect Ultra Games
Tekken is one of the best fighting games on the market and has been since day one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Why do you feel the need to bash it every time Korly comments on something that has nothing to do with it?
Welcome to TNL
Welcome to Yoshi's world of being terrible and constantly farting out insults about peoples taste in games when no one cares.
Actually, I wasn't the one who brought it up. I wouldn't have said shit if he didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by FirstBlood
edit: In Korly's case, I also thought he took it as a joke. I think he's a good guy, so there's no ill-intent.
I get that, but I think the Tekken sucks joke ran its course over in the Happy Wars thread. It's time to put it to rest already. You and most of TNL hate it, but it is definitely a quality fighting game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Things that are so Dracula never run their course on TNL. Icepick is not impressed. Mortal Kombat.
Nah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brettmatic
Sure it's a quality fighting game - the question is what that quality is.
Tekken 2, Tag Tourney, and 6 were pretty damn good.
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Originally Posted by Eurogamer
Looks awrful.
Looking pretty good. I'm fairly certain I'll be in for the Steam version of this, especially given the barren summer release calendar.
I was enjoying the look of the game until all the flashy colorized hits started coming in. They should have gone for full realism like the first movie.
y'know, I've been digging on the new tmnt from nick. The turtle designs are great at capturing each character's unique personality. This seems kinda...not that. Just more bland me-too realism for the sake of.
They look like burn victims.
So does this have actual progression or is it just basically a bunch of Batman Arkham City-style score-attack combat challenges?
I'm getting the impression that it's the latter and I'm more than okay with that, personally, but I don't imagine a lot of people would feel the same.
I'd be really surprised if it didn't have progression.
The best turtle:
I just want to play it already :(
This summer is going to be amazing for downloadable titles*.
*Using the crusty, old, outdated definition of the term.
You're crusty, old, and outdated.
Roasted.
I am proud of that fact in many areas. Media isn't one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanX
Oh nose.
Too much brown and black.
Racist
out of the shadows and into the trash can
So what do you do?
You love a license so you buy the game? But the game looks like/is crap. So you buy crap? Or do you SEND A MESSAGE!! that crap won't be tolerated. Or does that send the message that the license is worthless?
Just play TMNT on NES half nekkid in the dark and laugh at the new stuff that can't be as cool as the old stuff.
I want to get it on XBLA :(
Rev3games did a preview playthrough, I think it actually looks pretty good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pczriEDHpds
That video preview screen...
"Not the momma!"
Heh yeah that is pretty funny, I guess my only gripe so far is that the combat seems a little too slow just judging from the campaign video.
It looks a lot better than I thought it was going to! Combat looks much deeper than just a straight button masher.
Out now, get your download on.
Well ok then! That release came out of nowhere.
Some damning impressions.
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This is coming from probably the biggest TMNT fan on the board. I'd get it no matter what, but I never put much faith into this.
Voice acting is trash.
Artwork looks like MS Paint.
Graphics are terrible.
I've fallen through the level a half dozen times.
The camera loves giving me a giant black screen.
Gameplay is wonky.
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Edit: OT, I cannot recommend this to any tmnt fan. It's just not good. Great opportunity wasted. Controls awful, camera is surreal and needs handholding. The list goes on...
All I did so far is set up the options. The supported resolutions, without the inevitable editing of an .ini file, are 640x480, something here I forget, 1280x960, and 1920x1080, so they're not even 16:10 for PC monitors, and when I picked 1280x960 for my 1600x1050 native monitor, it didn't upscale. It just put black borders around the image. There are no options for AA, V-sync, etc. so it's the laziest of console ports in terms of options.
I should know better than to buy anything that hasn't been reviewed by the time it's released. I'll try the actual game once my daughter gets home from school.
edit: I left out that it plays the original movie's T-U-R-T-L-E power song on a short loop at the title screen.
Tried the demo. I had to turn it off.
I can attest to some of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chux
Lots of bugs and the controls are way more sluggish than I care for. There are two things that bother me with this game aside from the bugs, one is that when you're doing a combo it's buffering the minute you press the first button so you're waiting for whole animations to finish. The second is that camera is pretty terrible, a lot of the time it's way too close to the character model and you have to constantly shift it around to see what you're hitting, on top of that there's no lock on.
The levels have a few visual indicators as to where to go but there were quite a few times I kept going in circles because the level design is so badly laid when it comes to leading you to the next area. All that being said the voice acting, save for Michelangelo's voice actor who sounds like he's 10 years old, is fine. The graphics are actually quite good and ultra colorful so them being described as "terrible" is not true in the slightest and the art in the cut scenes are good even if a bit jarring when it transitions from detailed polygons to flat simple 2D art. TMNT: OOTS has a fairly deep combo system which has a lot to offer in terms of attacking in a variety of fun ways and another positive going for the game is that it has a lot of content and modes so replay value certainly isn't going to be an issue.
I did the same exact thing and I RARELY buy games before seeing a few reviews first. I guess I just got caught up in the hype and nostalgia for a good TMNT game but it's been a somewhat disappointing experience so far but the 2D arcade mode holds promise and I'm hoping that it gets a few good patches to iron out the problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Yeah, my relatively early impressions are in the 5-6/10 range. The character models are actually very well done technically. The backgrounds don't match them though, which is where I think the graphical complaints come from. I've also had the problem you described where I had no idea where to go next. Ledges will flash gold to let you know, but only if you're close enough to them. I think a patch or two could put the game in a solid 7-8/10 range, but I'm concerned this may be a dump and run project and certainly doesn't instill confidence in the weird 360/3DS/Wii game coming soon.
I find that disabling V-Sync in a game and enabling it in the control panel works much better. Some games do weird stuff when their Sync is ONQuote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I've actually been letting the GeForce Experience auto-optimize recently and have had good results for the games that it supports.
I should probably do that. I keep saying, nothanks.jpg when it wants to install, but if it seems to work, well no reason not to use it.
#TeamDelusionalQuote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I actually agree with him on this, a few good patches would go a long way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
All the technical issues really mar the experience but like Yoshi said I fear this may be one of those hit and runs with the "go fuck yourself we're in the middle of counting money" type of support but I really hope that isn't the case.
Ok, then let me ask you this: Is Turtles in Time (or whatever your previous favorite TMNT game is) a 7 or 8 out of 10?
If so, are you saying that with "patches" that this game will be just as good? And if one of those old TMNT games is a 7 or 8 out of 10, where do games like Deus Ex/Half Life/System Shock/MGS3 or stuff like that rank? Or like, Mega Man 2 or Super Mario Brothers or Dracula X for that matter?
I really liked the arcade game which was great and I also enjoyed Turtles in Time but I didn't have an SNES until way later so my main TMNT game for a while was Hyperstone Heist which I played over and over and loved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
I'd give Hyperstone Heist a 8.5/10, this game doesn't quite measure up to that so I'd give it a 6.5/10 but with all the stuff fixed it would easily be a 7 since it also has a decent story mode and a fun arcade mode. Never played System Shock and played very little Half-Life but MGS3/Deus Ex (Human Revolution) hover in the high 9's.
I guess I can't understand how only half a point (or a full point) separates Genesis TMNT from MGS3 and Deus Ex but your opinion is still valid. And my experience with the Out of the Shadows demo makes me seriously wonder how fixing the technical problems would make it anywhere near as good as the old TMNT games but hey, I only played the demo. (And I also don't think the old TMNT games are very good)
Well I'm not quite done with Out of the Shadows yet so I still have a bit to go and can change my mind to a lower score. With beat-em ups responsiveness and speed are a huge factor so if that was considerably improved that would make the game feel much much better, the bugs and camera angles are also big problems that if ironed out would make the game feel way more solid.
Hyperstone Heist was just an insanely fun beat-em up that I played a lot of couch co-op with and like a lot of you guys was a property I really loved (and still do). Deus Ex and MGS3 offer a different kind of enjoyable experience and are obviously much deeper/advanced but I dunno, I can pop in Hyperstone Heist after Human Revolution and not feel like it's a huge step down.
Hyperstone Heist is a shitty romhack of TiT. The bosses are pretty miserable to boot.
:lol:
Well that's one way to look at it.
If Hyperstone Heist was my favorite TMNT game I'd stop playing games. It's miserable.
Wait, fight the bosses you already beat again, no they're palette swapped, it's ok.
Haters.
"Talkin' bout how Hyperstone Heist is a bad game...."
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4218/fztd.jpg
I like the run button as opposed to double-tapping in TiT. The combat is fun but that's because it's cut and pasted straight from TiT. Everything else feels very cheap, partially because they made a game using scaled down existing resources from the SNES TiT. It's seriously a romhack, something you absolutely could never in a million years say about Hard Corps or Castlevania: Bloodlines. Those are Konami franchises on the Genesis done right; this is an embarrassment.
Beyond that the bosses are extremely weak. Extremely. They all have the same pattern which is move up and down one side of the screen throwing shit, then do an invincible dash across the screen when you hit them enough. Except for Baxter Stockman which is right out of the first arcade game. Now that I think about it, there might not even be a Bebop in the game. Good thing there's fucking goddamned Tatsu! Yeah! If you can't do two bosses on screen at once that can ram each other and make lightning strike get out of my face.
Tatsu! Hyperstone was fun but the arcade games destroy it.
Now you look here man, I didn't no no better and I still enjoyed it as a stripped down version.
Tatsu 4 lyfe.
I'll play. I'd say the best TMNT game(s) is probably a 9/10. They were legitimately awesome in the 8 and 16-bit generations, and to me ratings have always been generational. It's extremely difficult to be objective otherwise. To answer your specific other questions, 10/10/8 (unless you meant 2)/7 and 7/8/10. Deus Ex is the best game in its genre of its generation. Half Life is too (considering it came out on PC in 1998). System Shock is hard, because I didn't play it when it was new, and its sequel really one-upped it. MGS3 is likely the best of an overrated series, just like Mega Man 2. SMB is no where near as good as SMB3. Dracula X is the best game ever by enough that I don't even know what is second on the list. And, yes, with a patch or two, I'd rather play this TMNT game than any MGS, any Mega Man, or the original SMB. Would you like to hear about Tekken or wrasslin' too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
Sunset Riders on Genesis was pretty shit, too.
Konami's development quality was real uneven on the Genesis.
I think that's kinda nuts, but you're entitled to your opinion. I'm glad you like it! What are your thoughts on the Xbox/PS2 era TMNT game that came out around the release of the CGI movie?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I still love cranking the difficulty all the way up, the game gets nuts. SNES TiT is pretty easy on max difficulty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Will
I've only played the 360 TMNT. I think those late Konami releases came out during Star Wars Galaxies, and almost nothing was competing with that during those days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
Fun Fact: This game still hasn't been released on PS3.
Redfly's been talking about "doing it right" when it comes to the PS3 release on the TMNT facebook page but man at this point all buzz is gone already and the damage is done.
Nobody cared then!
The TMNT facebook page updated and they're saying that this game is finally coming to PSN on April 15th, they had pretty bad timing though given that they updated on April 1st but they said it's not a stupid April Fool's joke.
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