DuckTales!

got it, beat it, time for bed

Mostly really liked it. I liked all the revamped art. I don't get the bitching about hit detection or problems with the pogo. Worked actually a little better than the original 99% of the time. I liked that they changed up the boss fights a little. WTF at the race at the end.

Not sure how I feel about all the forced modern gaming elements. Like the "how do I play this" intro level. Or the forced fetch quests. Or the race at the end. If they'd had a shitty water level, a bad escort mission and a cut scene that you have to get through via mashing a button in a specific order, they'd had a full set.

Did a lot of other small things right though. Worth $15 just to swim in the money bin.

what was the deal with magica and fentan's voices?

magica's been saying "moose and squirrel" for 95 years now and fenton died in 2005

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

I don't get the bitching about hit detection or problems with the pogo.

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Because a patch came out forever ago.

Forever, only two or three weeks away.

Add Ben Kuchera's super late PA Report review to the list of people who are really, really bad at games yet still ignore the Easy option so they can bitch in their review about DuckTales.

The only time I lost all my lives was on the very last part and only because I kept scaling the wrong side and the game autoscrolled.

So, now I know and I won't lose next time.

Maybe the reviews would have loved this if there was a cover mechanic?

One good review: http://www.destructoid.com/review-du...d-259623.phtml

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Originally Posted by the review author in the comments

"You say Normal is actually a bit easier than the NES original, but I
read from Joystiq and Eurogamer that the longer levels actually make
Normal a lot harder. Since there is no checkpointing and the game forces
you through cutscenes and fetch quests again, it seems kind of like BS."

Um, okay.

There actually *is* checkpointing in this new game -- and it actually makes it easier than the NES version. In the original if you died, there were only a few scant checkpoints to recover from throughout the *entire* level (a la Mega Man classic). You could actually end up re-doing entire levels over again in the NES game based on a simple mistake.

In Remastered if you lose a life, you start on the exact same screen or section. You also keep *all* the fetch items you've gotten so far. You get three lives (and more if you find Mrs. Beakley) -- more than enough to best each stage if you learn the pogo mechanics. The new Transylvania stage is also easier for example, because it doesn't contain nearly as many backwards secrets and hidden nooks.

I also go with my heart on my scores. It's a mix of choosing games I'm excited for, and getting assigned stuff. All I can really do is be honest. And honestly, I liked DuckTales Remastered more than a few other reviewers.

Beyond the difficulty complaint (which I just didn't see, having played the NES game multiple times these past few weeks), I had no issues with Scrooge's controls. Some reviews say the pogo is unreliable -- I never had that happen, ever. As long as you pick up cane-canceling (dropping the cane button mid-jump, then pressing it again to control your height), you shouldn't have any issues.

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Destructoid may have some odd reviews sometimes, but I have yet to see anybody bitch about high difficulty on anything.

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You could actually end up re-doing entire levels over again in the NES game based on the fact that you're playing a video game.

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Yuh, I know. Just reiterating that it ain't really difficult and people are being whiny babies about grampa duck bopping bees on the head.

I am shaking my cane from my porch at all of them. Someday you will too.

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Originally Posted by ChaoofNee

Destructoid may have some odd reviews sometimes, but I have yet to see anybody bitch about high difficulty on anything.

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http://www.destructoid.com/review-qu...y-185467.phtml

The part that the reviewer says "appears to be literally impossible on normal difficulty" took me about three tries and just takes a minute to get to from the checkpoint.

You used a Game Genie. Don't front.

It didn't quite fit in the disc drive but he shoved it in there, as he does most things.

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Originally Posted by Nick

http://www.destructoid.com/review-qu...y-185467.phtml

The part that the reviewer says "appears to be literally impossible on normal difficulty" took me about three tries and just takes a minute to get to from the checkpoint.

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Games jernulism is dead. I give up.

Bought it. Played from start to finish. Crafted with love. How can people hate this?

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Originally Posted by ChaoofNee

Games jernulism is dead. I give up.

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Yeah, he gave a final rating to a game that he admits he didn't finish because - hey! - that one part was tougher than the parts before it.

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Originally Posted by EvilMog

Bought it. Played from start to finish. Crafted with love. How can people hate this?

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I DON'T KNOW

I went in dry on hard right from the start and I think life sucked for 10 minutes in the Himalayas once ever. Once the pogo problem was patched the thing was butter from start to finish. Games gerbilism IS dead

Pretty much confirms suspicions that deadlines are so tight and the content of the review matters so little that reviewers either watch let's play vids or blaze through it on easy most of the time

Best remake ever, the sprites are amazing. The only remake I can think of that approved and also stayed true to the original this well was GCN Resident Evil 1.

In the original, you fought Dracula first in Transylvania then Magica in Transylvania the second time, right? And the fetch quests were non-existant apart from the moon one? My memory is a little hazy.

Other way around, Magica first. Then you visit Transylvania again and go to the same boss room and fight Dracula Duck. The moon level only made you look for a single key.

Ah ok, so it was always Magica first.

After you beat Dracula Duck Glomgold just appears and starts to ride a green Magica buzzard. You climb a rope by holding up and then you win. It's kind of funny.

you don't have to do the fetch quest in the nes version. You can get a robot to knock you through the hole.

So this is getting a for reals physical release now. What the hell?

Loool dubba dip!

I did a quick google search and came up with nothing. Link something?

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/09/18/du...l-november-12/

I did a quick google search and came up with at least three articles. Here's the announcement on the Capcom-Unity blog.

The articles probably just went up; it's still pretty news.

I haven't bought this yet purely because I haven't turned my ps3 on for anything besides Netflix in a while. A winner is me.

HAHAHA! Enjoy your discless PS3 box, you early adopting pieces of garbage.

Triple dip coming up.

This must be doing great though. Shit like Minecraft and Terraria(Questionable) that sell like gangbusters online get retail re-releases.

MOAR CAPCOM DIDNEY WORL GAMES PLS.

I'm glad I got it right the first time.

I think most of us ended up with it on Steam, right?

I'm liking this quite a bit so far. I love how the game adds things to stay more in line with the cartoon and how the bosses have new attacks. I also like how there's a control option that doesn't make you press down to pogo. I don't hear it mentioned much, but only the first NES Duck Tales actually did that. Both GB Duck Tales and the second NES game only need a single button for pogo.

I don't hear the GB Duck Tales 2 mentioned much. It actually offers a few things the NES version doesn't have (like a box that shows how many treasure chests are left and an item that makes the hidden diamonds visible) and remixes the levels a bit. It's not as rare and is cheaper to get a hold of too.

Yeah, I have GB Ducktales 2. Bought it at a yardsale a few weeks before Ducktales HD came out for $5, still haven't gotten around to playing it.

I almost bought this last night! I'm glad I get to save my space bucks then. I'll be all over a retail release.

Thanks for the links. Google was just showing me old stuff before. I was wondering if they would mention the current diskless version, which of course they did not. But I guess you got a pin, which is totally (not) worth it.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

I did a quick google search and came up with at least three articles. Here's the announcement on the Capcom-Unity blog.

The articles probably just went up; it's still pretty news.

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Oh so they can justify a physical release for this but not Phoenix wright

Capcom has become the biggest troll company around

Well, I guess the smart decision is to not buy AA on release now. Good job, Capcom.

I wouldn't be surprised if ducktales has already done better than apollo justice and edgeworth T&T put together.

It has a lot of nostalgia and brand recognition behind it also.

Picked this up on the Steam sale!

The boss battles are tougher than the original, but the cinemas are deadly boring and I'm not sure the backgrounds really work. The NES game is still better overall!

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Originally Posted by YellerDog

Picked this up on the Steam sale!

The boss battles are tougher than the original, but the cinemas are deadly boring and I'm not sure the backgrounds really work. The NES game is still better overall!

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facist.

I get that they got the original voice actors and they reallllly wanted to use them, but I don't know if adding a bunch of dialog to an otherwise verbally silent game was the way to do that.

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Originally Posted by YellerDog

I get that they got the original voice actors and they reallllly wanted to use them, but I don't know if adding a bunch of dialog to an otherwise verbally silent game was the way to do that.

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super facist now.

Also they somehow turned The Moon theme from "best 8-bit song" to "forgettable fully orchestrated thing" and I am holding a grudge.

It was an OK game. I respect what they were trying to do. And shit, it will take you what? 3 minutes to play the original?

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Originally Posted by BonusKun

facist.

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It's true. The man hates faces.

WayForward?

More like WayBackward.

They are a company who really has played some excellent games!

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Originally Posted by Finch

Yellow Dog, i am unfriending you on every thing including real life.

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!!!

It's funny to think this would be a better game if the devs had put less effort into it.

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Originally Posted by YellerDog

They are a company who really has played some excellent games!

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The second Shantae is ace.

Why not just play NES DuckTales if that's what you were after?

Hating on this game has got to be one of the most irrational things you can do, internet style.

Maybe you don't like it personally, but it's a great remake of a NES game. Keeps much of the original intact, but adds more structure to the levels. Tons of difficulty options, everyone should find a level they can enjoy the game at. The graphics and sound are an incredible homage to fans of the cartoon. Redone music- but guess what, you can go back to 8 bit if you prefer, it's all there. Added an actual story, but also gave people a way to skip cutscenes. They wanted everyone to be able to enjoy this game and appreciate the style and IP- and people just bitch and bitch and bitch.

Take a step back and appreciate the work and effort of other humans even if it isn't tailor made for you.

The game had to be what it was. They weren't going to release something that ignored all the duck tails fans that never had a nes.

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Originally Posted by Darmonde

Take a step back and appreciate the work and effort of other humans even if it isn't tailor made for you.

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OMG HIPPY.

I see it more as "I thought something wasn't going to be for me when it came out, and buying it on extreme sale proves that was actually correct!"

The original game existing doesn't let this game off the hook, I'm afraid.
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I think the character art is great, the controls are very responsive (weren't broken originally, but the easy pogo is nice), more complicated boss fights are great... and just about anything else they added didn't contribute to making the game better.

Money bin was cool, though. :D

I miss the spacebar "What the hell is this?" glitch after boss fights.

It's an excellent remake. It was made just for me as a fan of both the NES game and the cartoon.

Best option that should be retroactively added: automatically skip cutscenes, but show dialogue windows where they exist in the NES game.

Easy. Probably easier to see now then when the voices were being planned during development, though.

There is an option retroactively added to automatically skip cutscenes.

No dialogue windows though.

I don't mind the visuals, but I was pretty shocked at how jarring the cutscenes were. I didn't realize there was an option to skip them.

A lot of the game is Start>Skip Cutscene. If there's a menu option to skip them all, this is relevant to my finishing-the-game interests!

No, he meant you can press start and skip each cutscene.

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Originally Posted by Darmonde

There is an option retroactively added to automatically skip cutscenes.

No dialogue windows though.

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This is relevant to my interests. Didn't beat it because of that.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

No, he meant you can press start and skip each cutscene.

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Blooooooows.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

No, he meant you can press start and skip each cutscene.

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No, I meant there's an option in the menu that's something like 'no cinema mode'.

So you get a coin in the amazon and just keep going.

I think it unlocks after beating the game once.

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Originally Posted by Darmonde

I think it unlocks after beating the game once.

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Hrmmmm.

Oh shit.

I had no idea. Cool.

People will still find a way to bitch.

Wait, you have to beat the game first? pft, purpose defeated

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Originally Posted by YellerDog

the easy pogo is nice

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You're actually using that? Pfffffffffffffffffffft.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

People will still find a way to bitch.

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Wait, you have to beat the game first? pft, purpose defeated

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Amazing.

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Originally Posted by No One

You're actually using that? Pfffffffffffffffffffft.

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My old man reflexes don't even care.

Why wouldn't I complain?

A: There's a way to skip cutscenes
me: Cool, I stopped attempting to beat the game because they sucked and took too long
A: You have to beat the game first
me: Not cool anymore, that doesn't help me in my quest to beat the game for the first time

YOU CAN SKIP THEM MANUALLY EVEN THE FIRST TIME

Really? I could have sworn I wasn't able to do that before so I thought the original post was about adding that option (and not just the skip automatically) after the fact.

Yes, even your first time through you can press start to pause and then A or X or whatever to Skip Cutscene.

After you beat it, you can apparently turn them off forever which is actually pretty nice. I liked watching them once, but definitely not more than that.

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Originally Posted by YellerDog

Also they somehow turned The Moon theme from "best 8-bit song" to "forgettable fully orchestrated thing" and I am holding a grudge.

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universal facist now.

If you like the remade song better, I have nothing to say to you.

I like the new version of the moon theme, but I'm glad the NES version of the song is there as an unlockable. I was surprised when I listened to a song and then the NES music plays during hard mode. They also attempted to do the new songs NES style, but they don't sound quite the same.

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Originally Posted by YellerDog

My old man reflexes don't even care.

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Originally Posted by Brianvgplayer

they don't sound quite the same.

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Bad patches, or a lazy sound engineer. The NES about is the most easily replicable set of sounds ever.

Shovel Knight will probably end up being a better "Capcom NES platformer" than this DuckTales remake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgnD4WRzgjI

That looks pretty damn good.

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Originally Posted by jyoung

Shovel Knight will probably end up being a better "Capcom NES platformer" than this DuckTales remake.

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People discussing the merits of how a remake was handled and what options got patched in later. Completely unrelated mention of something that has nothing to do with anything, awkwardly inserted into the thread with all the grace of a spambot.

Are you being paid to shill for them or something?

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Originally Posted by MechDeus

People discussing the merits of how a remake was handled and what options got patched in later. Completely unrelated mention of something that has nothing to do with anything, awkwardly inserted into the thread with all the grace of a spambot.

Are you being paid to shill for them or something?

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I was wondering wtf Shovel Knight was doing in this thread.

Yacht Club Games was founded by an ex-WayForward dude and Shovel Knight has an 8-bit aesthetic with a pogo attack.

Shovel Knight seems *extremely* Duck Tales NES-y on paper.

It's got kind of the dirty looking Ocean-published NES game look to it, we'll see!

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Originally Posted by MechDeus

People discussing the merits of how a remake was handled and what options got patched in later. Completely unrelated mention of something that has nothing to do with anything, awkwardly inserted into the thread with all the grace of a spambot.

Are you being paid to shill for them or something?

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It's either that or shitty "x, more like y" jokes with him. Still TNL's worst poster!

You might want to read the recent posts in the DR3 thread before engraving his name into that trophy.

Actually, that whole thread is a shitstorm of head-scratchers. I wouldn't know who to single out.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

Yacht Club Games was founded by an ex-WayForward dude and Shovel Knight has an 8-bit aesthetic with a pogo attack.

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This remake was done with an 8-bit aesthetic?

I hear at the end of Shovel Knight he removes his helmet to reveal he's been Scrooge McDuck all along

Launchpad McQuack IMO

His body type is very similar to the Shovel Knight's.

I think DuckTales is an excellent rogue-like.

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Originally Posted by Josh

Bad patches, or a lazy sound engineer. The NES about is the most easily replicable set of sounds ever.

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Actually, the music taken from the NES sounds fine. It's just that the NES style remixes of tunes new to Remastered don't mesh with the NES tunes.

imo

A classic.