That's an interesting point but probably an accurate one. So we have the ill informed on both sides misusing a word for different reasons. I guess that shouldn't be a surprise in the current environment.
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That's an interesting point but probably an accurate one. So we have the ill informed on both sides misusing a word for different reasons. I guess that shouldn't be a surprise in the current environment.
This is only true if one believes sexual preference and identity to be a choice as religion is. There is mounting scientific evidence that they are not choices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Most religious people were born into that religion.
Here's the deal: at its core, atheism is not a belief system. Many atheists accept certain theories as fact, yes: But the beliefs behind scientific theories are based on evidence (or, at least, extrapolation from existing evidence). Belief systems of religions are based on completely illogical suppositions for which there is zero evidence - they just "feel" it to be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick
Atheism is simply a disbelief that there could be a God or gods.
Example: I don't believe any of that shit. Religious people then ask what created the universe and whatnot, I say I don't know or care. Their followup is that I'm agnostic, not atheist, and that if I don't know then I have to acknowledge that God could be real. But guess what? I don't have to acknowledge that because it's batshit fucking insane. I don't have to acknowledge that some entity created all this stuff around us any more than I have to acknowledge that Middle Earth could be real.
Middle Earth isn't real? My day is ruined
Science does not prove there is no God.
You believe there isn't. You are almost definitely correct, but if you say there is definitely no God and it is insane to believe there is, you are propounding your belief.
There is no God detector you can hold up to show a zero reading.
I think it's safe to say that the Christian god does not exist just as easily as you can say the Greek/Roman gods do not exist
There may very well be a godlike being but it's not what they are selling
I think it's super safe to say that God as portrayed in the Bible does not exist, but that's as much logic as science.
As for the Greek gods, ask Kratos about that.
Science doesn't have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick
The correct phrasing of the first sentence is, "You don't believe there is." I'm not purporting anything. If someone thinks Space Grandpa is real, they are out of their mind. That's not a belief. We are talking about a person claiming a dude in outer space made everything and that dude watches over everything and loves them and is waiting for them when they die. That sentence is the same as the one where Dumbledore tells Harry that his mother sacrificed herself for him and her love was so strong that even Voldemort's magic couldn't kill him.Quote:
You believe there isn't. You are almost definitely correct, but if you say there is definitely no God and it is insane to believe there is, you are propounding your belief.
Again, because you don't have to.Quote:
There is no God detector you can hold up to show a zero reading.