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There's a bit more flicker/slowdown than in the Genesis one, but the graphic fidelity is almost too good to believe on the Master System. Even the parallax is in it. The BGM is even faithfully reproduced within the limits of standard SMS sound.
For a homebrew on 8-bit, it's not bad.
That's ridiculous. It's really annoying how often the more/most powerful console of a given generation didn't get the third party support to be the lead dog.
It's because console sales always are, always have been, and always will be driven by games. Not the other way around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
That's half true. By about the third year of a given generation, the platform for games is determined by the console sales, so it snowballs. And launch timing matters too. It took the 360 a long time to have a game anyone cared about, but that's ok when you have a year head start.
And if one console has a stranglehold on publishers, it gets all the games. The Master System had a lot of potential that never got to develop in the U.S.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeve
thank nintendo for that..Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
So true. This truly pushes the limits of the SMS, and shows where Compile could've taken the system given one or two more games- even eclipsing their own 4M R-Type port. A lot of arcade games could've been brought to SMS in good form with the right developers in charge. So many missed opportunities thanks to Nintendo's dirty wrangling. The NES would choke hard if someone tried to get it to do Musha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
One racer I'd have liked to see on SMS is Power Drift. Sega should've hired Chris Butler to rework his surprisingly good C64 version for their system. Just imagine that, only with the graphics upgraded for SMS.
man i loved the balls off my SMS but i honestly don't think it could run all that at the same time at that speed...it'dve been worth it to see how many megabits it'dve flaunted on the cover, though
Wow, that Musha port is amazing, if I didn't see the Mark III logo I would have thought it was a Turbografx game.
Shinobi on SMS does look a bit cack. If only Sega gave the homebrew Musha's level of TLC to their own arcade ports.
Thunder Force IV can probably not be done... if someone tried, an SMS version would probably have Metal Slug 2's level of slowdown. Not that I'd mind being proven wrong.
This thread made me fire up Robo Aleste. I always forget how bad I am at that game.
James
I can't agree with that. Shinobi was arguably the best looking console game in its genre when it came out, not a lazy port at all. I was impressed by the detail in the bosses, the bonus rounds, and background stuff like the Monroe posters and the mountains in 1988. SMS Shadow Dancer on the other hand, that was lazy. No friggin' dog sidekick?!Quote:
Originally Posted by gameoverDude
I'm not surprised the system can pull off a good MUSHA port. They probably could get even closer by using the FM sound.
I still have C64 Power Drift (but no working system). I loved how it included all the hill movement.
I hate how SMS Shinobi scrolls way up when you jump to a higher platform. It means that going back down is basically a blind leap of faith. The arcade original didn't have this problem.
It doesn't do that on the levels with holes at least. You might land on someone's head on the first level, though.
I've seen the Amiga version. TBQH the C64 version actually beats it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater
In a still shot the Amiga version looks better, but in motion... bleck! Choppiness kills it, especially when you are turning sharp corners. This makes it so visually confusing, it caused me to run off the track more than a few times. Highly damning, especially when I can 1CC the arcade with no problem (1st place X 6 on all courses). 8-bit wins, probably due to different programmers taking their own approaches.
The Saturn version is nice, but if it were given a bit more time I'm sure Sega could've got it to run at 60 FPS. IINM the Saturn is more powerful than the arcade PD hardware. If Sega attempted PD on other systems, I could see PS1 having a few issues. Some trackside objects would probably be downsized or cut (lack of RAM). N64 could've probably done a 1:1 version with 60 FPS.
One neat touch on SMS Shinobi is the gangster music when you lose a life. It seemed out of place at first and had me cracking up, but it sort of grew on me. I wish they'd have gone with a 4 meg cart, since several BGM tracks from the arcade are missing.
Someone (I think at smspower) found that some of the missing music is actually there in the game's code. It's so strange they didn't use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gameoverDude
I don't dislike the Shinobi port, but it does lack the intensity of the arcade. SMS got the short end of stick when it comes to Shinobi, even compared to GG (I wish SMS had counterparts for the GG Shinobis). Cyber Shinobi looks especially bad. Alex Kidd in Shinobi World looks fun, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by gameoverDude
Shinobi on SMS has like a million Marilyn Monroe posters in it.
4 MARILYN POWAH
Neo handled this, but...yeah it's often in top 10 SMS lists; if you really think it's cack don't ever see the NES port.Quote:
Originally Posted by gameoverDude
haha also thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
I've seen the NES one. Yeck on that. Then again, the SMS one could have been worse. Take Shadow Dancer for SMS, which even blows away the NES Shinobi in terms of sucking. Despite it being a 4M cart, most of the stages have been cut out to the point where it can be cleared in 8 minutes. It does include the bonus level with ninjas coming down the building. Sprites are larger than the SMS Shinobi's ones, but I think this wasted the 4M cart space and didn't leave room for most of the stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishNinja
^wow, i've never even seen Shadow Dancer on SMS, time to go look that one up!