I don't know, Arnold tumbling on the road and smashing through the windshield was pretty goddamn awful.
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I don't know, Arnold tumbling on the road and smashing through the windshield was pretty goddamn awful.
Yeah, I tried to screen cap when his head goes through the windshield, but that's something you actually need to see in motion to truly appreciate how bad it looks.Quote:
Originally Posted by BerringerX
Stan Winston really is dead, huh.
Kano?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
Please hold.
Nice.
I wonder what it is like to be the nerds working on this. Like, do they know how bad it is? Do they cry all the way to the bank, knowing they are ruining something that inspired them to get into special effects. Snivel as they shovel sustenance into their face, knowing that it was paid for my entertainment rape dollars?
Or maybe they farmed it out to india, to some dorks that have never even seen the original movie? Kind of like those Chinese ladies that make butt plugs and wonder what the hell we do with so many plastic mushrooms?
Knowing nerds who work on this sort of thing, there are endless pressures from the studio to slap shit together for trailers before it's 100%. Someone did an obsessive comparison between Jurassic World trailers recently that shows this, VFX changes rapidly.
Most are just sort of over whatever 'property' they're working on after a certain point, and a job's a job.
I imagine when the aliens get done digging through the ashes and garbage, they'll conclude that is what killed us all.
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Originally Posted by YellerDog
What the fuck at that new trailer!? What they did to John is the dumbest God damn shit ever.
The casting for John was pretty awful from word 'go' here, that speech is over the top stupid.
So it's Kyle/Sarah + Terminator vs T-1000 and....John Conner the new robot thing?
There is no possible way this movie isn't going to suck.
Terminator Megamix. I'm hoping they fight the car from Daytona.
Just like with Terminator Salvation, this movie is supposed to represent the starting point of a new trilogy. And just like Terminator Salvation, this movie will fucking bomb and never be never be heard from again.
Gee I wonder if this movie will have any callbacks to T3.
Maybe Johnny Five and the robots from captain Power will be in it too.
Why the fuck not at this point.
The batteries not included robots are crucial to the third act.
Newest trailer
Oh that's good.
You know what we really need? Arnold and Johnny 5 to make a robot TWINS movie. Call it Twins 2: Johnny's Day.
Day one. License to print money.
Anticipated (lack of) quality of this movie aside, the Adobe® Photoshop® software enhancement of the posters is outta control:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1431350142
I've seen her jugs, I'm sure PS is involved, but I think a god bra is doing most of the work there.
I think I must research this to verify Chux's conclusion.
For science.
Watch the first season of Game of Thrones.
Unrelated, we still have NO CLUE who Matt Smith is playing, but now that we know John turns maybe he's a baddie too?
I've seen it. She's got little ta-tas (nice ones, but they're little). Either she's rocking a D-cup bra in that poster or some dude who lives on Diet Coke added some pixels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1431354468
I don't think there's any need to spoiler tag that. The trailer and even the posters give that away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chux
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1431354047
Yeah I didn't mean that for the chest size conversation just for the Gohan wanting to see her tits conversation. Though in regards to the first conversation I remember them looking larger than that when she was getting fucked by Drago. (compared to the pic you just posted)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
I've seen some bad Photoshopped posters in my time, but this one has me downright confused as shit. Look at Sarah Connor. She's wearing a leather jacket, and the front of it reaches down to about crotch-level. Then, it magically curves upward so that her front thigh is revealed all the way up to waist-level (with said waist appearing to be four inches around, apparently), and disappears completely behind her elbow to ensure her ass, which doesn't even look connected to her body, is revealed. I mean, what the fuck.
Oh, and Arnold look like 70 year-old Guitar Wolf.
Seriously, fuck this piece of shit, studio mandate-driven movie.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1431629785
I wouldn't worry about it, Terminator 3 already happened. There's nothing left to ruin here.
I want the T-800 head to turn around, and bite on that ass.
I notice that Hollywood is figuring out that Asia is a gigantic market and is starting to pander hard these days.
Arnold Seijinegger.
I I like Arnie's "You are terminated" line more than I like Sarah's "You're terminated, fucker"Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
Great moment in a pretty bad movie.
The Elton John glasses joke was the Alien Resurrection brain gag of T3. Ruins the whole thing around it.
I'd watch Arnold in a guitar wolf movie.
I guess it could be worse. They could have made an terminator vs robocop movie and fucked it up as the AvP movies.
Cameron endorses the movie.
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/james-c...016156362.html
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I start to see things I recognize. It’s being very respectful of first two films. Then all of the sudden, it just swerves. And now I’m going on a journey. I feel like the franchise has been reinvigorated, like this is a renaissance.
He also states he thinks of it as the third film.
That's some strong ass wordage.Quote:
“in my mind I think of [Genisys] as the third film.”
Cameron also endorsed AvP. He can't really be trusted.
I suspect he just likes going to movies for free.
Cameron also endorsed Terminator 3.
AVP had Lance Henriksen in it, they're good buddies. T3 and this have Arnold in 'em. He's giving good press for his buddies' movies.
That's the only possible answer.
Cameron still thinks people care about Avatar.
So does Disney and it irritates my balls right off.
I'm halfway curious to see how they intend to make a sequel. Dances With Wolves doesn't have a part 2.
Yet.
Fixed that a bit, but I'll give Cameron the benefit of the doubt, he's done a lot more right than wrong and he didn't let anyone rush him into making sequels. He's worked on the scripts with the writers for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
I just want him to get Avatar 2 out of his system so that he'll hopefully work on Alita already. He's such a tease.
Yeah, there's no way that won't be great.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...id=76922&stc=1
I'm not actually expecting him to make it, it's just a pipe dream at this point.
It will be great if they really let him make it. If they let it be another Fury Road, with a dirty undercity, and a blade runner upper city, and have physical props for all the close ups of robot bodies, etc, it would be amazing.
If they make it like a dozen other current movies, it will be boring to trash.
You ever watch the Battle Angel OVAs? They're not that great.
Cameron's still a good director. I'd probably enjoy it at least for the visuals and flow even if he's just shitting out another pile of cliches for a script.
This is getting horrible, horrible reviews. Big shock, I know.
I don't understand what it's offering that wasn't in Sarah Conner Chronicles.
dubstep, no wacky side plots about ufos
An appropriately short running time.
Arnold tarnishing his legacy.
He's been doing that for years. Why stop now?
Here's a clip from this.
I will watch this shitty movie and bitch about it afterward.
Ahhhh they've dorkwashed Bill Paxton out of the movie.
Apparently it's a rights thing. They can't use any of the original footage. Thankfully.
This has that problem where a shitty song samples one of your favorite songs.
Okay. So, Arnold was great in this. Since this T-800 had been around for years raising Sarah, he had adopted more human mannerisms, so he talks and acts a little less mechanically and even makes the occasional joke. He's still basically The Terminator, but it's a more natural performance this time. It actually felt like he was acting a bit. Plus, his relationship with Sarah was actually sweet, like when he waited for her and Kyle to arrive in 2017 and had kept pictures of her and all the crayon drawings she had drawn of him as a child hanging on the wall of his hideout.
Otherwise, this movie was terrible. The plot almost made no sense, and despite the much-hyped "Back to the Future 2" style messing with alternate timelines shit, it just felt like such a re-hash it wasn't even funny. Ultimately, YET AGAIN it was Arnold and the humans on the run in the modern day from a superior Terminator while trying to stop Skynet.
This isn't a spoiler, since the trailers and commercials already spoiled it- John Connor was transformed into an evil super-Terminator, and his character was completely lame and his plans for Sarah and Kyle made no sense...he needs them to stay alive or he'll never be born and then transformed into a Terminator to serve Skynet, yet he keeps alternating between not killing them when he has every opportunity to do so and then flipping buses in an attempt to kill them and...ugh.
Oh, and the "Genisys" part of the movie is just stupid. Like, just a really, really, really, really stupid plot device. When I found out what Genisys actually was I honestly couldn't believe that was the best they could come up with. You'll see what I mean.
J.K. Simmons is completely wasted in this, but I'm sure he at least got a good paycheck.
The little bit of Future War stuff in the beginning was actually decent.
The interaction between Sarah and Kyle was mind-numbingly awful. Whenever they started talking the movie just came to a complete halt.
Dumb spoilers:
Matt Smith IS (barely) in the movie, and he plays SKYNET FOR REALS LOL
BTW, Matt Smith/Skynet was super-annoying.
John Connor was super-annoying, too. Every time he showed up you just wanted him to go away. Hell, the T-X from T3 was a better villain.
Apparently when you time travel you can hear important plot points from alternate time lines that never happened.
Kyle talks to his child self and the kid has no idea who the fuck this stranger is that showed up on his family's farm and asked him to remember that Genisys is Skynet. The scene was just creepy and weird.
Young CG Arnold was fun. Too bad he didn't stick around.
The T-1000 was fun. Too bad he didn't stick around.
Arnold becomes upgraded to a T-1000 at the end. Seriously. They actually foreshadowed it, which I picked up on. I'm still not sure if this is stupid or not, but I'm sure this movie will flop and there won't be a sequel that explores his new abilities, so whatever.
Genisys was a keen new Operating System that everyone was way stoked to be released....in 2017 the countdown clock leading to it's release is on billboards and cell phones and everywhere else and people are so excited. But no, it's really Skynet, who will take over he world when the countdown reaches zero! But he's already shown to be awake and aware of everything that's going on, even future stuff, so why does he have to wait for the clock to finish before...ah, fuck it.
Again, aside from Arnold, this movie was pretty bad. But I still can't rank it in badness compared to Terminator 3 and Salvation. Overall, it might be the worst Terminator movie, although I liked Arnold better in Genisys than in T3. I'm not sure why this is so hard to decide.
Thank you Dole, I'm comfortable with you having watched that and me having read those spoilers so I don't have to see it.
James Cameron is such an asshole for endorsing this movie as "great" and "the real sequel to Terminator 2." Not that I believed him for a second.
But hey, at least there were purple lasers again in the future. There's that.
I enjoyed 3 even though it wasn't good. salvation is just dumb so I might like this one just to see the governator.
Again, Arnold was good. He was certainly livelier than he was in T3.
Speaking of Salvation, interesting that they went the exact same 'omg young arnold cgi' route again.
I saw this last night and Dolemite's review is fucking spot on perfect. I really can't add much to what he said, because he nailed all of the low points of the movie. Well, maybe I can mention the excruciatingly poor attempt at humor when our main characters get arrested and the "Cops" theme song starts playing...ugh.
One thing for sure is that I have no problem at all labeling this the worst Terminator movie in the entire franchise. At least Terminator 3 had a great ending and Salvation had the usual solid Christian Bale performance. Genisys is just as bad as "A Good Day to Die Hard."
Holy shit. Well that's really disappointing.Quote:
Originally Posted by magnifiedplaid
OMG, I forgot about that. That was SO FUCKING BAD.Quote:
Originally Posted by magnifiedplaid
Yeah, but T3 had SO MUCH cheesy humor inserted into it. And Salvation had almost no redeeming qualities...I didn't even think Bale was that good in it, shockingly.Quote:
One thing for sure is that I have no problem at all labeling this the worst Terminator movie in the entire franchise. At least Terminator 3 had a great ending and Salvation had the usual solid Christian Bale performance.
That's pretty much a spot-on assessment, yeah.Quote:
Genisys is just as bad as "A Good Day to Die Hard."
A few more observations/complaints about Genisys:
So they go to the trouble of turning John Connor - the savior of humanity - into a T-3000, and then just play him as a standard, full-on villain the entire movie instead of having him try to resist and fight his programming? If that's not a plot device then what's the point? Why make the T-3000 anyone in particular if you're not going to play on who they were at all?
The dude playing Kyle Reese was horribly mis-cast. Michael Biehn was fantastic in the original Terminator; he was intense and crazy as fuck and had an extremely lean physique, just as someone who's been fighting robots while starving in the middle of an apocalyptic wasteland should be. This new guy, on the other hand, was super-relaxed and laid back most of the time and had pretty much zero intensity. And he was way too buff; he looked more like a Terminator himself than a dude living underground while living on rat stew. This Kyle Reese apparently had access to plenty of whey protein and a Gold's Gym in the future, not to mention lots of toothpaste and dental floss. He really looked like he had stepped onto the set of the movie right from his luxury trailer after getting a manicure from one of his several personal assistants.
I liked the girl playing Sarah Connor more than I thought I would, most likely because she was pretty cute. She's certainly no Linda Hamilton in the acting department, however.
I thought T3 was a solid yet generic and forgettable action movie, but I've only seen it once and that was with low expectations since so many people were bitching about it at the time so grain of salt. I recall the firetruck or whatever chase being pretty cool.
Can't really remember anything about Salvation.
Yup, that scene was great and didn't Arnold paid for the budget for that scene? I don't remember anything about Salvation, except maybe Batman falling down a hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
The hook and manhole scene from Terminator 3 is one of the best collateral damage stunts ever.
Terminator 3 is an underrated flick, and I have a feeling that people's appreciation for it will grow over time, especially after seeing how abysmal later entries like Genisys are. I know this sounds all sorts of wrong too, but on most days I'd rather pop in my Terminator 3 blu-ray over my Terminator 2 blu-ray. For me, T2 drags a bit in places and any time I can skip hearing Edward Furlong's whiny voice is definitely a plus for me.
*sharpens pitchfork*
When I was a lad Terminator 2 was so kick ass. As an adult Terminator 2 is a just dumber version of Terminator.
I enjoy 3 for what it is. "You are terminated" is my favorite moment in the trilogy.
I've watched t2 too many times. Any great movie is like that as an adult if you have it memorized.
I wouldnt say it is dumber. It was just an action movie to t1's suspense / horror. Much like alien to aliens.
Maybe action is always dumber than the alternatives.
Short circuit 2 is kind of action movie compared to 1, and it is dumber.
Yeah, yeah.
T2 was all about identifying what my idea of 'cool' was at 10 years old. T1 is a solid movie (except for maybe the motel love scene where they crank the romance novel trash up to 11). Both are great!
T3 doesn't have any goddamn weight to it. Dude tosses out a 'fusion battery' and it makes a huge explosion and no one ever cares ever again = T3.
I rewatched T1 last night, that hotel/love scene was very awkward and forced. Other than that and the weird claymation here and there, it still holds up.
Like what? A dumber version of Terminator?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
The not being able to sit down and watch it.
I love both short circuit movies but I haven't watched either in like 5 years. I don't need too. between the ages of like 4 and 9 I watched Batteries not included, short circuit, Ghostbusters, Robocop, and Little Shop of Horrors in rotation.
And speaking of Ghostbusters, I really wish Youtube had the MTV halloween version of 'Frankenstein' My dad for whatever reason taped the GB theme and the Frankenstein video before our copy of Ghostbusters.
I can't agree with that. I can sit down and watch Terminator, Robocop, Road Warrior, Blade Runner, Brave Little Toaster, the Princess Bride, etc without thinking they're dumb. Terminator 2, on the other hand, is pretty dumb.
I don't think I was trying to say that not being able or being able to watch something makes it dumb / not dumb.
I'm more responding to this:
than to you, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by magnifiedplaid
I don't think being able to watch something makes it good or bad.
Hell, Empire strikes back puts me to sleep at this point, but objectively is probably the best Star Wars movie. It just drags in the middle and I've seen it 500 times now because of ATATs and Yoda.
Man I really like terminator 1. I was going to explain why but I don't think I could put it into words that well.
It's fantastic.
I like it so much I wrote a record about it.
I put the first two up on the same pedestal. But I do enjoy the franchise as a whole, aside from the goofy comics and novels. Yes, even Genisys.
it was better than 3 and salvation
I had a big reply worked up for dolemine's whine-a-thon but fuck it not worth the effort
Apparently proper capitalization or punctuation isn't worth the effort either.
Almost snuck into this today after another movie, decided it was too nice a day out.
That might be the yellerdoggiest post ever.
"To thine own self be true" I suppose?
Yeah, so this was exactly what I wanted it to be. Although the liquid metal/T800 interaction was pure bullshit.
Way better than 3 and Salvation. And I liked 3.
I felt the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheebs
Had two hours to kill the other afternoon and this provided entertainment. I was surprised.
Besides, it's Arnold playing a terminator again. He's really good at it. I'll always want to see that.
Sure there's plot holes but at least they made the old Arnie thing make sense.