Steel Assault - Famicom-styled action platformer (PC, Kickstarter)

"a little"? I almost passed on Shovel Knight because of its style. Can we graduate to SNES-level pixel art getting overplayed now, please?

I'd love TNL to graduate from being sour as green shit, but we can't always get the things we want.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

There's something gained by successfully recreating a certain instantly recognizable and nostalgic aesthetic.

Case in point, I find the original MSX-style version of La Mulana more appealing than the vaguely-retro-but-whatever remake that's on Steam.

That said, copping the NES style in particular is getting a little played out.

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Yeah but I'm not saying newer = better

I am saying that newer and quality is probably much better though, yeah

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Originally Posted by James

"a little"? I almost passed on Shovel Knight because of its style. Can we graduate to SNES-level pixel art getting overplayed now, please?

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SNES style was overplayed in 1991. How about some more soft gradient?

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Originally Posted by Joust Williams

Yeah but I'm not saying newer = better

I am saying that newer and quality is probably much better though, yeah

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But again, the La Mulana example, the newer version looks "better" and there's nothing wrong with the art, but it lacks that feeling of authenticity that makes the original such effective nostalgia.

Another good example is the Sega Ages remakes of the Fantasy Zone games. The remake of FZ2 was done on real System 16 hardware, which is borderline insane adherence to their concept, but in so doing they managed to create something so spot on that they more or less got to rewrite history on that game. The FZ1 remake on the other hand is hi res and looks nice enough and there's nothing wrong with it but no one ever talks about it.

It's not the right choice for every game, but it makes sense for certain games where bringing back the feeling of playing those older games is really important to the whole experience.

I'm all for the continuation of NES style games being made. There is no reason why we can't get games using Genesis and SNES specs as well. It would be nice for fans of old school gaming to get games from that whole window of time instead of one limited window.

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Originally Posted by Glass Joe

I'm all for the continuation of NES style games being made. There is no reason why we can't get games using Genesis and SNES specs as well. It would be nice for fans of old school gaming to get games from that whole window of time instead of one limited window.

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I mean it's not just graphics. Shovel Knight didn't look like a SNES game because it didn't play like one. That decision was an extension of the games that inspired it. The same is true for this game.

But Freedom Planet stood out for me for being big on Genesis influences, which have been neglected by a lot of these retro-styled affairs. La Mulana did as well for its MSX influences. So it's not just how they look, it's how they play and what games they're borrowing from.

I think Gunlord is one of the more creative examples of influence of old games. It merges Neo Geo and Amiga styles to make something that's both homage and new.

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Originally Posted by Finch

I'd love TNL to graduate from being sour as green shit, but we can't always get the things we want.

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Brother, why do you know what green shit tastes like.

Brother, why do you think sour is detected by only one sense?