TNL Gentlemen's Laserdisc Society

Formerly the TNL Horsecart Repair Club (disbanded).

Got a laserdisc player? This is the thread for that. For movie watching, shop talking, and maybe even a bit of trading.

Laserdisc is an interesting format! Pre-dating CDs, you get most of what made DVD great happening fifteen years earlier with great gatefold album art. A lot of your early Special Edition DVD supplements came directly from laserdiscs, you get dual-audio tracks for isolated scores or commentaries, proper THX editions, and nice extras like typed liner notes on nice paper stock. For studios that really wanted to show off their best movies, you get some outstanding releases. You've got to flip the discs often times, but there are caveats to that; Extended Play (CLV) discs have fewer sides but you can't freeze frame on most players, while CAV discs give you much higher quality and still frame capabilities at the trade off of having more discs (and tend to be slightly more expensive as a result). Audio is a big deal on these --on a well-mastered disc sound can be high-end CD quality, and the stereo mixes for many discs beat the hell out of the surround sound mixes on many DVDs!

Truly the format for the refined gentleman or lady. Also there's an Error Turtle.

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Breaking in my new player. Picked up a still-in-plastic Pioneer CLD-V700, which is basically a karaoke machine! Looks awesome on the Sony Trinitron, running analog-to-analog through composite cables.
I've been setting up my garage as a proper mostly-internet-free workspace this week, and I figure old media should rule there.

Inaugural watching:

Predator - First movie in the machine. Great bassy soundtrack and gunfire

True Lies - Glossy and rad action picture. That Jamie Lee Curtis scene, damn. After Strange Days, was this the last good James Cameron thing? The back label on the last disc has an "Omega Section" logo on it, nice touch.

Star Wars (Widescreen) - Goddamn right Han shot first. He was the only one doing any shooting whatsoever.

The Wild Bunch (Director's Cut) - Murder-Eyes Ernest Borgnine right before the shooting starts at the end is the scariest thing in the world.

Citizen Kane (Criterion) - Actually my first time seeing this as an adult, one of those movies that you keep hearing how important it is that you approach it like vegetables instead of the rare steak of a movie that it really is. The examination of the surface-altruistic but ultimately selfish rich liberal.
TON of extras on this one, right down to the storyboards and stills of the film's budget and an alternate-audio section. Turns out DVD extras were around in 1984!

Casablanca (Criterion) - Still great. Gonna check out the audio commentary next time I need something to listen to while drawing.

Beauty and the Beast Work-In-Progress (CAV) - I think this was included on the Blu-Ray but was on LD twenty years prior. Every stage of the movie is represented in the workprint, from storyboard thumbnails to final animation, with the final soundtrack on top of it. Really cool to see.

Aladdin (CAV) - So nice. Holds up well too --the craft of the movie is really outstanding.

Next up, Akira (Criterion)

I liked that the commentary on the Mallrats DVD was originally on the laser disc, and featured kevin smith shit talking the dvd format.

Yeller has been bitten by the bug!

I've mentioned most of this elsewhere, but earlier in the year I was talking to a bud who had picked up a cheap ld player and fixed it. I thought I'd do the same, but instead ended up with a DVL-700 player. A hardcore collector friend says it's one of the best players ever released in North America. I dunno about that but it looks nice on the pvm. I picked up a second cheapie industrial player to hook up to the hdtv, but I haven't found a deal on a scaler yet. I'd really like to do like Yeller and pick up a late model Sony CRT tv because watching movies in 20 inches kinda blows. Plus, aside from the player itself the most important part of good image quality out of a ld player is the comb filter, and those tvs had great ones.

I've slowed down now, but when I was bit by the bug I kept buying a ton of super cheap movies, I probably have around 100 now. I've only watched maybe a dozen though. I recently watched the Godfather for the first time, perfect 10/10, lived up to the hype. I had to immediately order part 2.

I've read that S-Video isn't the way to go with these unless your TV doesn't have a decent comb filter (while composite is better if it does), I wonder what configuration is gonna work best with a scaler.

I had some discs years ago, the Alien and Aliens: Special Edition CAV box sets, the theatrical cut of Blade Runner with the narration... those are at a parent's house now, going to have to scavenger hunt next time I'm visiting.

Local record stores and thrift shops tend to have great stuff. I'm trying to take a short break from buying stuff for now until I've watched them all (up to about 25 now), I caught myself checking eBay a bit too often! Not before ordering a bunch of 90s Disney and Criterion stuff though! According to an email address it looks like I'll soon own the director of the last episode of Futurama's laserdisc of King Kong, that's kind of rad.

Watched Kurosawa's Ikiru last night, story of a bureaucrat who finds out he has stomach cancer and decides to finally go out and live. Dusty room.

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I liked that the commentary on the Mallrats DVD was originally on the laser disc, and featured kevin smith shit talking the dvd format.

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Chasing Amy, I think! I remember when the DVD came out they made a short video intro saying "uuuuuuh so I said a thing and... I was wrong, please buy dvds."

I just got Chasing Amy! :D

re: Comb filters

If you have an svideo capable player it's best to hook both up and test to see which is best. Chances are, the comb filter in the TV is better than the player. My player with my PVM was an exception, but that's just because my PVM doesn't do much processing to the image, the comb filter in my player is still pretty weak. I picked up an Extron YCS 100 from ebay for $15, which is designed to convert composite to svideo, and it just so happens to have a nice 5 line comb filter in it, cleaned up the colors on my PVM quite nicely.

As far as scalers go, I've done some research but do not have first hand experience. It seems the way to go is to have some kind of external comb filter going into one of the better iScan scalers such as a VP50, which will output to HDMI and from pics I've seen it looks great. Those things aren't cheap though, and at best, you might have something that looks as nice as your Trinitron. Maybe. I can tell you that the Framemeister, while great for games, is awful for laserdisc. Surprisingly, an XRGB2 does an acceptable job, but it doesn't scale either, and I was using it with a VGA CRT anyway.

I don't understand collecting laser discs, but I do understand that Ikiru is great even though I tend to tune out a little after he dies.

For me it's just got a lot of intangibles to it. It's a defunct semi-aristocratic video format with an abundance of thought and care put in to the releases, with great big cover art covered in essays about the films, at least in the case of the Criterion Collection LDs. They're my focus here.

And Ikiru really is amazing! Digging into an unfamiliar format put it in front of me.

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Nice. I'm envious of that gatefold.

Good info, btw!

Plus, with the exception of a few rare later titles, this stuff is REALLY cheap. Out of all my discs, very few cost more than $5, many were just one American dollar.

You guys are weird.

You don't say.

*shrug*

Ultimately I would like to get the Evangelion Death and Rebirth boxed set but holyshitexpensive.

I get collecting them because of the packaging and supplements. That big Akira cover certainly pleases the eye more than some plastic DVD or blu ray. It's the watching of them that I don't understand.

The thought of choosing to watch a widescreen movie in low res on a 4:3 CRT with either massive black bars (or worse, pan and scan) when there are higher fidelity alternatives of the same movies probably on your shelves and in your Netflix queues, makes me a little angry.

Not hating. I have silly hobbies too. Just trying to wrap my mind around this particular one.

I find the picture quality to be perfectly nice, HD for HD's sake doesn't really set my heart a flutter. I'm watching The Third Man right now (which was shot in 4:3, so YOU have to watch it window boxed) and I'm not wanting for picture quality. The film grain that's there should be there and there isn't a digital compression artifact in sight.

I'd argue I'm getting a better picture than you are streaming video on an uneven connection.

On the 'intangibles' front, the physical object-ness to it is really satisfying, a movie becomes an object with weight and texture, something to be examined and appreciated --unlike those weightless clicky noises on your endless Netflix queue. There's an inherent quality to it.

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Is this the same Yeller who chucked his DVD cases? You're about the last TNLer I'd expect to hear these things from.

I've always had a vinyl collection. I see this as an analog to that.

DVD cases are tacky garbage. ;)

You know what's worse? BluRay cases. Holy Jumping Jesus those are terrible.

But! This thread isn't about those.

I have a single laser disc, Santa Sangre. I don't have a player but i've def always wanted one.

Always wanted to see that...

They're pretty affordable as long as you can buy local, I know some players were for sale in the Mission when I was looking. Shipping is awful on the players, they are a million pounds and huge.

A friend is giving me his copy of Kentucky Fried Movie tomorrow! I am excite, best Zucker Bros.

...join us...

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Same here, except my one disc is Terminator 2.

Do you have that cool-ass leather bound box set?

Because if you don't.... https://www.etsy.com/listing/2017880...ef=also_bought

(Turns out Etsy has tons of cheap LDs? Who knew?)

This is not a thread I expected to see in 2015.

I kind of want one. We had one from like 92, onward. It was kind of a family thing to get 1 new one for a really good movie and watch it on the biggest tv we had.

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This was a post I expected around #3 or #4, however.

I have a laserdisc copy of Die Zauberflöte. I've never been able to figure out where it came from.

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Indeed.

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I have a laserdisc copy of Die Zauberflöte. I've never been able to figure out where it came from.

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You should send it to me.

Next time I buy an LP I will.

There was a store across the street from my apartment that had tons of killer laserdiscs that they were practically giving away but no one bought before they closed a couple months back. I came so close several times to buying some and hunting down a player, but baby/no space/gonna be moving again sooner than later stayed my hand, as well as I had somehow gotten in my head that most of them would have succumbed to disc rot. I kinda wish I had grabbed a few though. It definitely seems way classier than DVD.

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Jealous. If I ever found El Topo on LD I'm pretty certain I'd own a player within a month.

I think I had everything that mattered as a kid. Short circuit. Jurassic park. T1 and t2. Predator.

Looking back, we had a laser disk player in computer discovery back in the 4th grade. But the school didn't have any laser disks. At the end of the year I brought 1 and some of the kids were so disapointed. They thought it would beam the movie into their brains or something. The same kids also thought my sega cd was some kind of top secret Saturn that snapped onto the gen.

There could be a whole wonder dudes ep on dumb shit kids believed about gaming but discovered otherwise in adulthood.

Also, I went to school with some pretty stupid kids, in hind sight.

Back in high school I ordered the first volume of Oh My Goddess! on VHS directly from AnimEigo. They sent me the Laserdisc version by mistake. I didn't bother letting them know.

Criterion King Kong!
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...0&d=1440094288
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You can emulate LD by restricting your Netflix bandwidth.

You really can't. I don't get the shitty compression ball-kicks that you do, no trash pixel mosaic to be seen. Solid picture over here.

Reasonably certain my sound quality is better too, does Netflix have DTS/THX mixes? Commentaries? Hmm!

Put Akira on this morning, it looks outstanding. I'm pretty happy with this entire setup. :D

The sound really does kick the shit out of anything but a Bluray. The image quality, while not as detailed as HD, is analog and has a real film like look to it, like you were viewing it on a projector. This is, of course, assuming the particular movie has a good transfer. I watched the original 1984 or 85 LD release of Terminator and it was horrific. I later got a newer version and it looked great.

The title of this thread makes me jealous.

I loved my laserdisc player. The picture quality was simply outstanding on a 4:3 tv. My only complaint with the format wasn't the need to flip the disc, but rather how abruptly it happened. One moment you're watching a movie, deep into the story, then it stops dead with no warning. For collections like the Looney Tunes compendiums it was no big deal, but for actual movies it killed the immersion. Everything else about the format was fantastic, though, and for the packaging alone it blew away DVD.

Seems like there's an art to placing the disc breaks; I appreciated that that Alien 3 disc had it right after the superintendent gets yanked into the ceiling and the guy yells "Fuck!"

Some movies put it right in the middle of a sequence and it is distracting. I imagine the thought process was trying to get it as close to the actual film reel changes as possible.

Or to push you to buy a multidisk player and avoid it entirely.

Got a Lion King CAV box set in this afternoon, $100+ when it came out, $9 eBay. Cool! Lithographs pack was still sealed, too! Had that nice '90s new thing smell'.

Spent all afternoon going through the bonus features discs and drawing a comic, very pleasant time. The multi-speed setting is really nice for perusing extensive still frame galleries, 1/90 or 1/30 seems to work really well for 'em.

Watching the Criterion disc of 'The Burmese Harp' now, black and white films particularly look amazing on this thing.

Yeller's post about cleaning up Blade Runner reminded me that I meant to post this:

http://www.amazon.com/NOVUS-7056-Pla...=novus+plastic

It's a plastic cleaner and polish that does wonders for removing small surface scratches from LDs. It won't fix larger scratches, but it will make them a bit smaller too. It's part of a three step clean/repair system, but the third bottle is for really deep scratches on motorcycle windshields and stuff, I figure that's not needed for LD's since a scratch that deep probably would irreparably damage the disc.

It also worked wonders on a certain white PS2 I picked up as well :D

Outstanding!

My Blade Runner disc has some spotty business going on Disc 2, it plays absolutely fine but looks like hell, like little spots of coffee under the plastic. I was worried it was the much-talked-about 'Laser Rot', but it plays fine, so whatever. Old media!

That sounds like rot to be but if it plays fine who cares.

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T2 box set should be in tomorrow, we watched the Lion King last night. Nice warm film look to it, vs. the Blu Ray's a-bit-too-crisp and computer-y picture.

Ohhhh shit. T2's in.

Disc 3 is still in the shrink wrap too! Neat!

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I was starting to warm up to laserdisc advocacy until you said you liked the Lion King ld better because the Blu Ray version looked "too crisp." That's just nutty talk.

But damn that T2 box is handsome.

It's pretty simple to me. All the 90s Disney stuff was composited using Disney's CAPS system. For the dvd/bluray they took the images right from CAPS instead of using the film master, and I don't prefer the hard edged digital look for those movies. The film transfer looks great on the LD and has a slightly softer glowing look that squares with how I remember those movies in the theater.

Waaaaaay more fun to collect than DVDs too. Check this out. $10, tons of bonus materials, and a pack of concept art lithographs:

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i think price is a bigger decider in collecting that people want to admit. One of the things I love about records is often times I can buy a huge pile for below 20 bucks. And then I can spend an evening just listening to new things I've never heard before. If it doesn't pan out, whatever, you wasted 10 or 25 cents. Thats the price of gum. If you strike gold, holy shit, you hit gold!

Why wouldn't they want to admit that?


I like can spend under seven or eight bucks on a Criterion LD and I know I'm getting something worthwhile out of it that I probably haven't seen, pretty good ROI on this little hobby so far.

Because in many circles being frugal is something you don't do unless you have to.

People want to look like they're in the know, or hip, or into something secret.

They don't want to admit that they are entertaining themselves on a budget.

That and they don't want the secret getting out and the price to go up. I hate place that want $5 to $10 for $1 used records.

I'm proud to admit I collect laserdisc because I'm a cheap bastard and most of my movies cost pocket change.

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Because in many circles being frugal is something you don't do unless you have to.

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That is not a circle I want to be in.

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I'm proud to admit I collect laserdisc because I'm a cheap bastard and most of my movies cost pocket change.

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I'm proud to admit I download them because I'm even cheaper than you.

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Whatever it takes. I'm enjoying my rich Corinthian leather T2, if the mood passes I'll sell it to the late-to-the-party hipsters for twice what I paid for it in two years.

Are you suggesting that you're on time for the party?

When people are clearing out their collections for pennies on the dollar? Yes. Yes I am.

I'll let you know how that Tex Avery set is.

I was sorta intrigued by whatever's going on here until I learned you have to switch discs mid-movie. Then it was like, GTFO laserdiscs. Arguing for the value of the packaging is also interesting twist.

Mileage may vary! I don't mind the flipping as much as I figured I would, but I also tend to listen to records.

I got dat auto flip, yo.

One of those 'fancy lad' players. I would not complain if mine did, for sure. If I ever double down I'll go for one of those.

Just found a copy of 'Twilight of the Cockroaches', which never hit DVD over here. One of the precursors to Saturday Anime on US cable, never expected to see that again! Cousin to Vampire Hunter D and Robot Carnival on late night cable.

To be honest, I don't know much about the differences in players, but when I was looking one if my buds who was a huge collector back in the day told me to hunt down a DVL-700, as it was one of the best players he's ever seen and is usually cheap these days since the combo players are usually pretty crap.

I later got a little featureless industrial player for like $25 and to be honest, other than the lack of auto flip I would have been just as happy.

That DVL is a cool lookin' player! I kept reading that combo players tended to have problems with one function or the other, but really they all double as CD players already so who knows.

I'd like to figure out how the karaoke stuff on my CLD-V700 player works just for lolz, it has a lot of pitch-changing functions built in and a dual-mic setup. If it turns out I can just burn my own CD+G discs that's going to be hilarious.

Most of your dvls are crappy for botg dvd or ld, and the 700 wasn't supposed to be top of the line. The fact that it's really good seems like a accident.

It is, however, the worst dvd player I have ever used.

I've got an old Best Buy 'Insignia' player in a junk drawer that holds that honor for me, holy crap. Slow as mud and half as pretty, pixely compressed jpeg fonts for you.

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80s Anime! Excited about Twilight of the Cockroaches, I only have faint memories of it from late night cable.

A few Streamline releases kind of stalled out on LD and VHS, curious to see what I can track down. So far that, something called Lensman and a different cut of Robot Carnival.

So! Starting a little Instagram to document this stuff and attempt some longer-form writeups. https://instagram.com/laser_hound_revival/

I picked up a HUGE BOX of discs the other day for $40, stuff ranging from Criterion 2001 to some Japanese Ranma 1/2 Opening Collection, so I figure this hobby got srs. all the sudden! I'm excited, it's way fun.

In that, I also picked up a fairly rare Making of Thriller ld that I plan to flip to pay for the entire box. :D

you should get one of these usb dongles and upload the rarer stuff. I'm sure it is far less work than vhs as you will have less to clean up.

I'm thinking about it, I haven't seen a good copy of Twilight of the Cockroaches on the internet. I'm happy the quality of the LD version kicks the one on YouTube's ass.

There's a good deal of supplemental stuff that never made it over as well. The very first-ever audio commentary ever was Ronald Haver speaking on the analog track of the Criterion King Kong disc, that never made it on to any DVD or BluRay; tons of supplements from Hunchback of Notre Dame box set didn't make the DVDs...

You know what to do.

Damn Yeller, you might have a bigger collection than I have now!

I'm putting up a new TV setup in my office and I'm hoping I can fit both my 20" PVM for gaming and my old 27" Samsung CRT on it so I can use the bigger screen for LDs. If it fits, it may be replaced by a larger Trini screen. Even if I don't, that Samsung was pimp as fuck for video, laserdisc will probably look awesome on it.

Cool!

In odd news, since starting the Instagram project all of yesterday, a high school friend just out of the blue donated $60 'to get Robocop and some of the other Criterion discs'. I don't even know, but that's kind of amazing.

"Donation Haul"

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Beauty and the Beast is the best movie.

Haven't seen it yet! I can vouch for The Seventh Seal, most excellent Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey prequel.

OMG Dr. No! any cool extras on that?

Not on this version! According to a friend, Criterion put out two-disc CAV sets of Dr. No and Goldfinger with commentary tracks that the producer of the film HATED, so they were recalled and replaced with less-good single disc bare bones CLV extended play editions.
edit: I've since learned that they put the commentary tracks on cassette tapes and offered them as a mail-away as an FU to the producers. Pretty cool! I imagine the voucher doesn't work anymore.


That Ghostbusters copy is a similar deal, the 'red banner' copy got all the good extras, blue banner has a trailer and that's it.

They were like two bucks each though, so I figure they'll be good trade fodder down the line if I find proper versions later!

I uh.

I, er, uh.

I got something today.

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A fine choice!

I was recently made aware of the 'chronological cut' of the Godfather called "The Godfather Trilogy: 1901–1980", where Coppola went back and recut the trilogy as a single 10 hour movie for laserdisc and VHS. Doesn't exist on DVD.

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There isn't a good version of it on the Internet.

You know what to do.

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A fine choice!

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Good catch, I was reading a thing about Taxi Driver this morning and got some wires crossed. Coppola!

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There isn't a good version of it on the Internet.

You know what to do.

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Grave is supposedly sending me his capture card to record "Twilight of the Cockroaches", I'll see what I can do.

You'll make a well liked TNL member's mom very happy if you do.

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I uh.

I, er, uh.

I got something today.

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Such a bummer ending.

Forget it, Mzo. It's Chinatown.

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Oh My.

I'd very much like to own the discs (Christmas, probably?), I'll gladly share 'em on These Internets when I get 'em.

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A fine choice!

I was recently made aware of the 'chronological cut' of the Godfather called "The Godfather Trilogy: 1901–1980", where Coppola went back and recut the trilogy as a single 10 hour movie for laserdisc and VHS. Doesn't exist on DVD.

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It looks cool but it's kinda hard to pick it up when it's expensive and the regular remaster LDs (which have awesome quality) are like $5 discs.

Btw, I watched the first Godfather movie for the first time a few weeks ago. It blew my mind, perfect 10 movie. The second one is next on my watch list.

Most of my best finds have been really cheap, I'm going to hold out for just finding it in person.

I found the Blood Red edition of Evil Dead 2 for $1.99, that thing goes for stupid money online. We're going to an LA film festival screening in October to get it signed by Rami and Campbell. :D

The best possible position to be in when collecting stuff is "I would like to have these things, but I don't need them and thus can wait until they fall into my lap. Maybe they never will, but that's OK."

Agreed! I've picked up a few discs on eBay, they always cost $10-$20 when I can find the same thing (maybe) for $1-$2 if I wait. Or maybe something totally different that's better!

I've got a record store nearby with a decent influx of trade-ins going through it, they got an old video store's stock recently. Every time I stop in it's totally different stuff.

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SCREAM! That's my favorite movie. that cover is gorgeous.

Yeah, I couldn't resist it. It's for decorative purposes only. Cheaper and cooler than a poster.

I'll stick with the Blu Ray over this three-sided beast for watching purposes like a notcrazyman.

Sanity: Pursuing a Master's degree in English when the people speaking it are barely able to do so.

Random Facebook status updates in my feed:
"Shore the hell will"
"rite lol"
"She shore do!!!!"
"I seen it early"
and finally...
"Some females do way too much calm down girl there is enough men out here for everyone and attention seeking females need to find they self because because you looking for a comment or a like from niggas to put some happiness in your life until you are truly happy with yourself you will never be happy with anyone I just wish some ppl wasn't so thirsty"

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I'll stick with the Blu Ray over this three-sided beast for watching purposes like a notcrazyman.

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Well lahh dee dahh.

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Sanity: Pursuing a Master's degree in English when the people speaking it are barely able to do so.

Random Facebook status updates in my feed:
"Shore the hell will"
"rite lol"
"She shore do!!!!"
"I seen it early"
and finally...
"Some females do way too much calm down girl there is enough men out here for everyone and attention seeking females need to find they self because because you looking for a comment or a like from niggas to put some happiness in your life until you are truly happy with yourself you will never be happy with anyone I just wish some ppl wasn't so thirsty"

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I find it more humorous than annoying; quit being so thirsty.

No, he was right to do it.

In other news, I'm finding that the Criterion LD's seem to have quite a bit of stuff that never transferred over to DVD, worst offenders being the first-run cardboard case Warner Bros stuff.

2001: A Space Odyssey has all kinds of cool stuff going on, like an Arthur C Clarke interview (inside an Apollo capsule!) and NASA's Voyager I and II Jupiter flyby simulation renders. Better sound, better transfer, and I believe a lot of those early WB DVDs were just (badly) compressing the laserdisc master on a disc and calling it a day.

They got better of course, but almost to a number the first few years of DVD releases are stomped on by the LDs.

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You'll make a well liked TNL member's mom very happy if you do.

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More like "moderately tolerated".

But yes, Yeller. I'd appreciate it very much.