Yeah, the ability to throw five yard slants. He's still going strong in that area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
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Yeah, the ability to throw five yard slants. He's still going strong in that area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
Matt Cassel was perfectly capable of doing that too. That's my point. He still threw less than half the TDs as Brady. Randy Moss was on both teams too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
That's exactly my point. The QB position is grossly overrated, which tends to make guys on highly successful teams also grossly overrated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
I feel like you are talking more about Elite in all this, who really is not good at all and makes a ton of mistakes. Yet all I hear is that he is a great quarterback in spite of all evidence to the contrary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I do want to jump out a window when people say he is better than his brother because rings.
Welker and Moss were still there in 2009 too. Why do you insist on focusing on what is obviously the anomaly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
It definitely applies to him too. I think he and Roethlisberger are very similar in fact, except Manning doesn't have the running game, so his flaws get exposed more often now that neither has an elite defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
The QB position is overrated, unless we're talking about Romo. That guy knows how to win games! And talking about rings means you know nothing about football, especially when we're talking about a business where rings are what matters most. Of course, when you're team has only won two playoff games since Clinton was president, you're going to downplay that, and say that everything but the QB earned those rings.
Whatever helps you, Yoshi.
The QB position is overrated, period. There is no except for anyone. Romo did about as much as a QB can do by himself, which isn't enough to win. As Diff pointed out, even the guys who came closest to doing it by themselves had hot (though not good) defenses, usually in the form of forcing timely turnovers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
I am not sure what to say about playoff wins, other than we can't all be blatant fair weather fans of teams that happened to be good in the early 2000s, and that your franchise is one coach, who will eventually retire at which time you'll have to lick your finger again and see which way the wind is blowing.
edit: Here's one for you. Find me a Super Bowl winner without a pass rush. Maybe you'll learn something.
I guess I've been a "fair weather fan" then since 1985. Please, don't stoop to the sports cock-waving tactic, because it doesn't become you and it comes off as desperate. I was a fan when the Pats were good, when they sucked, and when they became great. And I'll be a fan even if they hit Cleveland-level lows.
My point is that you sound silly going all Sports Center and ALWAYS bringing up Brady, like he deflated your Romo-signed football or something. Of course the QB can't do it all himself, but to say that all Brady does is throw 5-yard slant passes and let the defense carry him is just LOL in its purest form. The guy is a great quarterback who gets the job done, plain and simple. Everything else, all your spreadsheet talk about stats and percentages, is just watercooler banter.
It's not the fans' fault we've had fifteen years of fair weather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
...The 2014 New England Patriots? Their rush was nothing special. Middle of the pack in passing yards against, sacks, whatever other metric you want to use.Quote:
edit: Here's one for you. Find me a Super Bowl winner without a pass rush. Maybe you'll learn something.