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Absolutely. Though we definitely should not take our eyes off of them. They are going to fuck up everything through Trump/Bannon/whomever you want to blame it on. We will need to be able to show definitively that it was them who screwed up the economy/foreign relations/civil rights/whatnot. Just like we were able to point to the cascading effect of ultra-liberal reactionary stuff on 2016's election results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
Yea. I think there is no doubt that Turdblossom's anti-gay marriage initiatives in 2004 were where the pendulum started swinging back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calliander
You do yourself a disservice by pretending those elements are fringe. Its at least 40% of the US. It only even slightly fringe when you combine the world's entire christian population. It might only be 5% that wants to beat a gay man to death, but 35% will silently nod.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
This is really poor language to use and you'd only polarize any christian you try to talk to by using it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calliander
I'd be happy if christanity went back to how it was in the 50s and it was less cult like. Where it was just rude to talk about it. And people still had critical thought in intrepreting it.
You know, simple stuff like "If I beat my gay son to death, or let other people beat their gay son to death, he will die in sin and go to hell, but as long as he is alive, I can live as an example of faith and maybe lead him to a better life."
or "I do not agree with abortion, but I will pray for people that do use it, and act as an example and discuss the good word with them so that they may find Jesus and in faith be saved" and not "Abortinist are all murderes so I'm going to burn their properity down and maybe kill them, making it where they again, die in sin and go to hell."
or "The flag is a symbol made by man I will not worship it or treat it higher than Christ. If people burn it I will pray for them but I will not worship false idols." instead of "If I ever see a man burn a flag I'll fucking break his face. That flag stands for every red white and blue american that has died for our freedom ITELLYOUWHAT."
Oh, and if they'd get their ass out of climate change. Read revelations kids, yeah, Jesus will let it get bad before he comes back. There aren't any promises against climate change in the Bible.
Christianity has always been peaceful as has Judaism and Islam has always been violent with no reason at all besides probably not being white enough, we should all know and agree with that and that muslims blowing things up is everything to do with being fundamentally evil and nothing to do with being fucked around when the west said "well what the hell do we do with all these Jews so we don't look bad"
In god's western holy name amen
I spent five years in the most cringingly Baptist corner of Lousyana, where the people are way, way too socially conservative for my tastes. And yet, I never met a person who would condone the killing of homosexuals or believes the Earth is literally 6,000 years old or any of that other stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
I'm not saying they absolutely don't exist. But if half a decade in the asshole of America turned up nothing, they are most certainly fringe. But if hanging on to that charicature in your mind makes you feel sufficiently self-satisfied and keep the smugness amped up to 11, by all means.
So what do you think those %'s are in Islamic countries? And who holds power in those countries and how is the law and civil rights interpreted?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
This has real consequences: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9b90033d0950
But yea let's keep talking about a bunch of nuts in Utah like it's the same thing.
We're barely a decade away from a president who justified a war by a biblical prophesy. We're half a decade from a president who apparently changed his mind to gays being people too.
And we're about zero minutes away from Iran forcing homosexuals to have sex change surgeries if they want to live.