The Trump Presidency

I shouldn’t be able to buy a gun without a waiting period, but I can. It’s a terrible idea. I would gladly surrender that right.

Then TNL agrees, waiting periods are ok.

So when are we finally going to have that "everyone won the argument" TNL pizza and ice cream social?

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

Guys...not to feed into Josh's current favorite meme, but Doc, bbobb, and I already did this. Oddly enough Sats is playing the part of the professor and ARBM is the jerk bbobb. Though admittedly, ARBM is just being extra facetious, and not militant. So bonus points for that.

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i'll see myself out now, i was half asleep :(

arrested for shitposting on main

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Originally Posted by Doc Holliday

If you purchase a weapon and you can’t be responsible enough to keep up with it, you’re largely responsible for whatever crime is committed with it.

EDIT: If you don’t report a stolen gun in 24h, whatever crimes are committed with it you should be an accomplice.

This is irresponsible.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...e-about-crime/

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Even if not required by law, immediately reporting the lost/stolen gun would still be best.
If the police find your gun at a crime scene, but you didn't report the loss or theft, it looks bad.

I'll agree, waiting periods (about 7-10 days) are fine.

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

Guys...not to feed into Josh's current favorite meme, but Doc, bbobb, and I already did this. Oddly enough Sats is playing the part of the professor and ARBM is the jerk bbobb. Though admittedly, ARBM is just being extra facetious, and not militant. So bonus points for that.

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Wat.

I just wanted to know where a stat came from.

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

I'm fine with getting rid of all that. I'm not convinced it stops anything. It just seems like a way to generate money for whatever department, instead of just taking it out of taxes. Or maybe, more money on top of taxes.




That seems to be the way of it. Most things worth doing aren't easy. Just about everything in history, was hard. Or an accident. Most easy things destroy us in one way or another.



Why? Because it isn't worth it to me. My gain to loss ratio is different than yours. The whole debate around the "easy thing" hinges on that. One part of American culture would lose aspects of their culture. Or fear for that (maybe they would lose less than they think. Politicians inflate that fear for votes). The other half has nothing to lose. Its not part of their life. So it seems like an obvious win win. They don't get why those stupid "others" don't see the win win. (And they probably won't gain as much as they think. But their politicians too, inflate the gains for votes).



I don't see the issues of mass shootings, suicide, and gun related crime being related. IMO they are all separate issues with separate causes and fixes. Frankly, I think you could ban the fucking shit out of AKs and it would have little impact. You might save 50 lives. Or not, maybe pressure cooker bombs will take their place. We don't know. But you will change the lives of 42% of America to do it, and possible destroy millions upon millions of $$$ in personal property.

But this isn't new. America has always been battling these kinds of battles. It was ok to fuck the Indians because it wasn't "our" culture. They were savages and wrong. Same with the Japanese that we put in camps. And the same with black people. And Mexicans. And the south looking at the north and the north looking at the south. When its not your culture, and you're not being impacted, its an easy choice. Fuck em, make it so.

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When you discuss policy with people it becomes clear they don’t really think about the negative consequences of their proposed changes. It always seems to get hand waved away as being for “The Greater Good (TM)”. Except any enforcement generally has negative aspects to it. You have to explore those effects too, and determine if it actually is making things better. In the case of gun control I think we’ve had enough of these discussions to realize very few people have thought their plans out. Even simple collateral effects are shrugged off because of how symbolic the gun is.

These discussions are good when they get tactical imo.

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

There is a whole world of socializing connected to guns that the left is completely ignorant of.

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This is old, but find something else to bond over. "I wouldn't really know my dad if he didn't cultivate my fetishism for wiener-shaped murder-sticks." Oh well. I'm sure all kinds of familial bonds were forged over fathers teaching sons about the responsibilities of slave ownership. Tough shit.

Would you be comfortable saying that if you weren't imagining rural whites in your head?

Would you use that tone and language to talk to us born brown people about how unhealthy their food is?

Really, you could pick a dozen different things minorities do to bond that isn't good at excess.

I look forward to arbm sassy comments on sugared yams for the holidays. Sure, many black family's like them during thanks giving and christmas, but they'll just have to get over it.

Yes.

A yam is exactly like a tool whose function is to kill people.

Someone can just as easily steal their parents' yam...

their parents'

yam...

and kill with it.

If black families were eating high capacity magazines on Christmas, yes, I would ask that they consider a different holiday treat.

This is not one of your better analogies.