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Wow, you kids are still going on this?
there are only so many ways to talk about Trump trying to get us into a war
The first wave of editorials is hitting the news.
Do you think Trump still plays with his pee pee?
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Originally Posted by Satsuki
Google.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
Well, they're going to get sued for entrapment, him claiming that they knew what they were getting as these are common themes for libertarians and this type of discussion was encouraged by a forum they ran and owned.
This is probably also why they fired him on some fake "other" offense as Diff mentioned.
Why not create a religion forum with a sub southern baptist forum and then act shocked when someone gets told they're going to hell?
Can't lose the 2020 election if there's no 2020.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
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Guys, guys, adwords are paying for 25 year old white male nerds to argue on a google owned libertarian forum about dumb shit
All our clicks are paying for that
I guess my question is why would women being uncomfortable with facts matter that much? Or men? Facts don't owe us feelings? Want a citation about women being more prone to anxiety, anorexia or depression? Okay. Easily. That's a great question (honestly). It also notes that men are more susceptible to autism, attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder, conduct disorder, specific language impairment, Tourette syndrome, dyslexia, or schizophrenia. I have none of those, but it doesn't hurt me to know it exists in my gender -- and these traits will actually prevent people from obtaining jobs in tech too (their consequences aren't accepted by society).Quote:
Originally Posted by Satsuki
Google has the right to fire him, I agree with you. But like I mentioned earlier I think that's almost side-stepping the larger cultural issues to be found here. Namely that facts are punished because they make women feel bad. Which in my estimation undermines the intelligence and capableness of women (which I think universities are harming at the moment as well—coddling young women in to running away from discomfort). The article even advocated treating people as individuals and not the groups we want to rigidly conform them in to (which I guess Google diversity training did).
If he told the truth, and the response is "You'll never work in this town again!" how is this not a dangerous slope for society? Pretty much every degenerative government in history had this stance towards the facts of a certain group of people. Thankfully this is in a private company, but it still sets a bad precedent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Satsuki
Probably because women do not have equality yet. And they arguably do not want it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
There is still a notion in the US that women are to be protected. And some women and men take advantage of that to get what most women are really after, equal access.
I hate to say it because it sounds like some MRA shit, but that is the truth right now. We make pamphlets teaching young women how to avoid or report rape. We make pamphlets for young men on how not to rape.
I even deal with it at work. When we do our yearly sexual harassment training, there isn't anything there for women. None of the training is aimed at the girls. We get a story from the instructor on how when he worked at a casino he had a female coworker that loved to talk about sex. She'd come in like every other day talking about conquests. Some times she'd get sexual toys and talk about those. And one day, he made the off handed comment "oh man, I bet those felt great." and they both laughed and whatever. A week later he gets a pink slip and a meeting with his boss about it. The girl reported him. The statement even said that she knew he didn't mean anything but it made her feel uncomfortable, so she reported it.
We are trained to let women talk about whatever they want to talk about and to never make them feel uncomfortable.
Thats the reality. A lot of men have to self censor at work. The reality is that most men are fucking assholes. We are mean to each other and we talk about disgusting things. Many women do not want to be a part of that world. A few are sexist and assume all men are out to take advantage of them.
Like just this week me and a male coworker were having a filthy conversation. We were talking about a boss and how he probably wants to do ass to mouth. And we laugh it up. We talk about how I bet he does that. Or this. Or whatever. On some days we may even take shots at each other.
I can't have that conversation with a female coworker.
And its the same for severity of the work. I've had to stop training of female workers because they were going to cry. I've had to take male trainers aside and tell them to ease up. Men never get that during training.
A lot of women do not want to be treated as equals. They want equal access, and their differences to be accommodated when they gain access.
DAAAAAAAAAMMMMNNNNN
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I vote we move this to the Do Any Of You Think? threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
I've had 4 hours of sleep and a lot of hot wings, cut me some slack.
Son, you are primed to talk about America. That's the most American thing I've heard all day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
Fuck. Yeah.
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lol yeah we can move it, I don't know why we ended up here! Forums. Also, lol at North Korea.
That Native American tattoo kinda rules.
I'm so late that I am not 100% sure what response you wanted. I think it was related to the cost of homogeneity. I'm sure it got lost in the discussion somewhere, but my original statement was that qualification for a job includes the salary requirements. For some jobs, if you can get an 80% as qualified candidate for 50% of the cost, that make them the right hire. For other jobs, if you can get a 10% more qualified candidate for 200% of the cost, that's the right hire. Typically, the bargains are for the more junior positions with larger candidate pools. It's as if supply and demand work!Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
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Yoshi pretending any HR department knows any of that to that level
buttplant pretending that HR makes hiring decisions in every company
Yeah, I'm sure those "other" people atare great at measuring dicks too.
Your yugeehoe mom is. I love that yuge made its way to the Trump thread.
Yuuuuge is one of my favorite expressions. Also the "bad (or sick) guy. sad!"
Trump just set a new low with his Charlottesville "speech". Any congressman who doesn't call for his removal should be fired ASAP.
Curious how the "we must say 'radical Islamic terror'" crowd is playing the "many sides" and condemning "hatred" game today.
Trump is such a coward for it and any government official not willing to call him out on it is a coward (and thus not fit to lead any group of constituents). What's as bad is his pivoting to "look how great of a job I am doing".
#notallnazis
National Socialism is a party of peace.
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Could you show me where anyone here called the guy who shot up a baseball practice a terrorist? I'm sure it's here, because the bleeding hearts are the very picture of consistency, but I can't find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Robot Bit Me
Maybe we need more car control. After all, how can we expect people to be responsible for their actions?
I suppose so, after everyone else is dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
Though they probably would have devolved into self policing and witch hunts had they won and kept the party.
You are so from Mississippi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26I suppose so, after everyone else is dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
Though they probably would have devolved into self policing and witch hunts had they won and kept the mosque.
Yes. Ban Assault vehicles! We need more common sense car legislation!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I'm just going to start posting this every time we talk about guns. Its mostly all that needs to be said
These live action alt right DnD rallies are dumb and I wish people would stop playing into them. Let the dorks have their wannabe LARPing and let the cops sort em out when they get drunk and stupid. Dude that killed the protestor is going to spend his life in prison, which is exactly where many of these people need to be.
You should compare Trump's speeches and the WH response in both cases. Maybe you'll see a differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Doc is making TNL unreadable with this 4chan schtick.
I am certain I was complaining about the media's reluctancy to call precisely that guy a terrorist and the "Lone wolf" moniker being reserved for white dudes. Regardless, my post was a response to Trump's statement. Guy has no problem calling out anyone/anything he objects to by name -- campaigned on it, in fact -- but minces words and condemns the "hatred" on "all sides" today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I love this line because we have car control.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
You can't drive a car if your history suggests you shouldn't. You are required to register your cars. Cars have a bunch of mandated safety features in response to fatalities: seat belts, airbags, etc. Cars that are too powerful are illegal for road use. I can't drive an F1 car down 95. And wouldn't you know it, car related deaths have trended down sharply since most of this stuff was put into place!
So, yes, extending the measures put in place to control car related deaths being extended to gun control is pretty much all gun control advocates are asking for. I know this isn't quite analogous since the purpose of a gun is to injure/kill, but then I didn't propose the analogy [emoji6]
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Looks like hooks.
What did he say that offended you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Oh, I see you're for the josh/ip suv ban.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Robot Bit Me
I'd support that for all kinds of reasons, yes.
ditto
He failed to say "some white supremicist douchenozzles violently gathered today and one of these assholes drove over 10+ people, killing one"Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
you know, because he's a total piece of shit coward
instead we got 'both sides' and 'jobs are good, I am doing so great'
Remember, he's the same genius who said yesterday about NK "we might have a good solution, or we might have a bad one. We'll see.," like he was deciding between steak or chicken at Chili's or something.
He has yet to acknowledge the killing, but he did chime in about two dead police officers.
Pretty transparent. Kick him out of office, now.
Jesus Christ it took me forever to delete all that car shit on my phone so I could reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Robot Bit Me
Here's the problem with your comparison. Terrorists attack uninvolved innocents for political reasons. There were no uninvolved innocents in Charlottesville. If someone could have taken all of both sides out, they'd have done us a favor.
Wow.
Everybody wants to bitch about the police. ok. Give rally permits to both sides somewhere that won't put any locals in danger and tell the cops to stay home. Unemployment will be at zero in no time.
Wat
Are you FUCKING KIDDING, Yoshi?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
So I guess it wasn't terrorism when Charlie Hebdo was attacked? Is that what you're saying? It isn't terrorism if the people criticize you first?
We can go back and forth and disagree on things, but this is fucking pathetic, man. Like really, be embarassed.
Are people who don't like Nazis and the KKK actually just as bad as Nazis and the KKK? Find out next time on Sally Yoshi Raphael!
That's another terrible comparison. Criticism is innocent. Antifa isn't. They've promoted every bit as much violence as the KKK has recently. The irony is that anti-fascist is in their name, but seemingly their primary goal is to limit free speech, often through force.
Terrorism doesn't have a color or a religion. Anyone who attacks civilians going about normal daily activities for political reasons is a terrorist, whether it's Muslims, the IRA, or Timothy McVeigh.
Two consistently violent groups can't possibly produce terrorism between them.
Yoshi finally went full retard.
Pretty sure everyone sane is anti Neo-Nazi
Settle down. I'm not keeping you company.Quote:
Originally Posted by Space Pirate Roberts
Do you know how big antifa is? It's like 20 people per major city. You can hate them all you want, but they're a red herring in this discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
How big do you think the KKK is? There are idiots marching alongside both groups that aren't formally part of the organizations. Guilt by association, like everything, has to go both ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
So being part of a white supremacist rally is "guilt by association"? No, I am pretty sure that makes you a piece of shit
It absolutely does, as does marching with Antifa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
I don't think it works that way though.
Not in the identity politics handbook. Everyone on one side can make up ridiculous self-identification shit down to non-binary genders, but everyone on the other side is a "Nazi" and/or "fascist," even if the overwhelming majority of people using both terms doesn't know what they mean.
Yeah but that side is almost zero people and they aren't driving through a street running over people while not being admonished by the current government. To lump all the people that think intolerance sucks with that small group of people is extremely disingenuous.
I can, however, pretty much do the same with the other side, because well, what the hell are they protesting for? MASTER RACE above all, which is in and of itself, inequality.
The vast majority of people who think intolerance sucks took their kids to a movie or went out to lunch or watched a baseball game today. I'm not lumping them in with anyone.
edit: Maybe some people are protesting because they lost their job, their health insurance premiums doubled, etc. There is no shortage of reasons to be pissed off, despite the ridiculous claims of "white privilege." Tell the guy who grew up in poverty in West Virginia and then was denied admission to college because of a quota how privileged he is.
And some of them didn't. They went here. And one was killed, and more injured.
Look at this thread. You're painting with the broadest of brushes and are hardly alone. I intentionally and provocatively did the same thing, and out came the caps lock.
edit: Honestly, if some fruit loop turned a protestor on the other side into road pizza, what do you think the narrative would have been?
If I am not mistaken, there were tons of huge marches a few months ago by "the other side" and people weren't dying because they aren't enormous pieces of shit. The driver in this incident? Calmly detained, more or less. Some people in other incidents that did far less? Savagely beaten.
That's why "both sides" is so lame and a cop out by the president. It's a non-answer that does absolutely nothing. The same guy that said "YEAH ROUGH EM UP WHEN YOU PUT EM IN THE PADDY WAGON" is like "both sides".
He is either a coward and/or a neo-Nazi himself. There are no other options on the table. That's why his response to this was so important. Instead of doing his job and LEADING, he pandered to the dopes who still like him.
There's no generalizing here. I can take these other events and say "Yeah there are probably some bad apples, but that a minority". Something like this though? "Nah, they're trash".
There were almost certainly people protesting that don't fall into either of the extremes that form the false dichotomy being trotted out here.
The good neo-Nazis?
The other side opened fire on a baseball practice instead, so tell me again how that guy isn't a huge piece of shit. You can't extrapolate from an example of one on one side and not the other. Again, this is not a simple attack on peaceful civilians. This was an act of aggression by a member of one group that contains at least one consistently violent subgroup against another group that contains at least one consistently violent subgroup. I understand the disappointment that Trump didn't call out the KKK or white supremacists in general, but I also understand why he didn't want to make the same leap you did about everyone in the viscinity.
edit: Holy shit I hate typing on my phone and having to edit three times for autocorrects.
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
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So you tell me, what were these, what, over 10,000 people gathering about? This "baseball practice guy" was by himself, and oh by the way, was killed, unlike this shitbag who was "peacefully detained".
As the polarization and demonization continues, the crowds will get bigger, and your characterization will get less accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Was this 20-year-old not by himself? He was detained, because once the car stops, there is no threat. That's a little different than Rambo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Don't get me wrong though. I would have been 100% in favor of this guy being Swiss cheese as long as there was no chance of civilians in the cross fire. Save the people of VA some tax dollars and probable grandstanding.
What were these people gathering about? Also, could he not have had any weapons? Because, you know, "the other side" is protesting the fact that people ARE GETTING KILLED DESPITE NOT HAVING WEAPONS OR BEING DANGEROUS. You know, unlike this guy.
They're gathering because they're pissed off, just like the other side.
edit: It doesn't matter why. They have the Constitutional right to assemble, just like they have the Constitutional right to bear arms, as opposed to own and/or drive a car (hi, ARBM).
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'many sides'
Lots more from today as well
Your insistence to not paint the racist side as such is unfortunate. The gathering was built around protesting the taking down of a civil war monument.
Taking down historical monuments is nearly always short-sighted. I'm sure a lot of people were against it for racist reasons, but I've seen buttplant rightfully bemoan it as well. And I'm sure there were people who showed up for some other reason and probably some who couldn't even tell you why they were there. It's the nature of modern day protesting. The only common threads seem to be free time and idiocy. I guarantee you there was at least one moron who was part of Occupy Wall Street that was on the protest side (as opposed to counter-protest) today.
I wonder which times it would not be short-sighted? I think I might know
I was thinking about something a foreign occupier built, but there are probably other examples.
It was your analogy, love!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Everyone needs to use thier current feelings to understand how the opposite side felt when the San Bernadino attack, Orlando nightclub, and OSU attack happened.
Tired?
Hey look at where the police station near where the black guy got beat by militant Nazi thugs is
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both sides, brehs
I wonder why people get so upset
The backlash against the backlash against the backlash against the backlash.
censoring history, no matter how painful or how much "we" don't like it, is never correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Update the plaque to give context instead of praise and/or move the monument to a museum.
If they are successful and are able to purge all of the dark history from the south, people like them will regret it 100s of years from now. People will deny that these things happened or were not as bad as the opposition say, or just forget about them and make no attempt to prevent them from happening again.
Also, in an ironic twist of fate, it puts them in a similar camp as the daughters of the american revolution that wrote many history books and campaigned a rosy narrative of the civil war period south in an attempt to forget the dark parts.
The thing that needs to be paid attention on these civil war monuments is when exactly they went up, and what that was a response to. Lots of them went up in the 1960's. Flying the stars and bars was popularized in the 1960's. What big social movement was happening in the 1960's?
It's pretty transparent that the original intent behind many of these things isn't so much to "honor history" as it is to throw giant middle fingers at the civil rights movement. One understands how that might chafe.
put that on the plague too.
"This was put here because the dixiecrats are assholes. peace."
This is the scary part. This is going to wind up like a gang war pretty soon, where a response is felt necessary. Gang members can kill each other all they want, but too often there is collateral damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
Nah, pretty sure German kids learn plenty about the Nazis without having statues everywhere or schools named after all these people. We can pretty much destroy most of this stuff, have some "Holocaust Museum" type of thing rather than what we have now and we'll be better off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
Funny how a disproportionately high percentage of the people in this country that agree with this shit are the people live around these. You'd think that they would remember the most with all this stuff everywhere! Odd.
Oh and
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That link sounds like when a crazy stalker thinks the anchor on the 6:00 news is talking to him and that they have a relationship.
So everyone protesting Nazis is an antifa agitator who is attacking civilians?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
They were probably all sent by that Jew George Soros too, right?
It was a few hundred retards, not 10,000, in fairness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Having the legal right to assemble does not mean they shouldn't be met with counter-protest... What point are you even making here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I don't understand why people act like we're learning history from a plaque. No one wants to remove Lee from the history books. No one wants to remove Hitler from the history books either. But we don't erect heroic statues of Hitler in the public square, and we should probably not have them for other savage white supremacist shitheads who led a war against our country either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26