Rob: Understood. Sega is definitely not a flavor of the week developer.
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Rob: Understood. Sega is definitely not a flavor of the week developer.
I really hope you're joking. It turns out Namco existed long before 1993. They made the first full-color videogame. They made fucking Pac-man, for Christ's sake. How about Dig Dug? SEGA didn't really become a force in the arcades until the mid-80s.Quote:
Originally posted by Tsubaki
Aside from Namco copying everything Sega does in the arcades, what has Namco really done?
Eh, Sega. That is all.
Andy, I hope you sleep better at night knowing that this poll proves concretely that Sega is better than Namco. :rolleyes:
Lucas has his opinion, so be it.
Not like either Namco and Sega haven't had their fair share of stinkers either.
Soul Calibur rocks BTW, I'm still waiting for some time with VF4. And I really like the Time Crisis series, best light gun games ever.
The only reason I like Sega as much as I do now started with Sonic, but Sonic Adventure 2 has me very jaded about the future of the Sonic series.
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I think the fact that a man with a Namco-inspired username just voted for Sega means that this discussion is over.
shit...
I always thought Midway released the original Pacman in the arcades back in the early 80's... so wouldn't Pacman be Midway's creation or did Namco have something to do with Midway?Quote:
Originally posted by Saint of Killers
They made fucking Pac-man, for Christ's sake.
Since we're talking about the companies and their total contributions to gaming, this is not even a contest. Sega absolutely destroys Namco if you look at all of gaming history.
Some of this is a repeat of what others have said.
The '70's didn't have much in terms of great Japanese-developed games outside of Taito's Space Invaders so there's not much to mention. A boxing game by Sega was the first Japanese-developed game. And Namco made some good stuff like Gee Bee.
Namco wins the early '80's. Pac-Man is better than any Sega game back then. Plus there's Galaga, Galaxian, Dig Dug, Pole Position, Xevious, Mappy, etc.
Not that Sega isn't great - Zaxxon, Star Jacker, Monaco GP, Congo Bongo, Up N Down, Star Trek. I'll forgive Sega for making the first FMV game, Astron Belt.
But from the mid-'80's onwards Sega is a leading force in the arcades and in home games. Namco did have many innovations(Winning Run used polygons long before Virtua Racing). Mid-late '80's Namco games can't touch stuff like Space Harrier, Shinobi, Out Run, After Burner, Galaxy Force etc.
Heading into the '90's, Namco starts competing with Sega in the arcades more directly with its racing and gun games. Sometimes their games are as good as Sega's, sometimes they aren't. But aside from these 3d games, Sega is cranking the 2d stuff on the home market at a rate Namco can't touch. Sure, Namco has System 1 and 2 arcade ports like Splatterhouse, Phelios, Marvel Land, Rolling Thunder, Valkyrie no Densetsu etc. but compared to the Sonics, Shinobis, Streets of Rages and a TON of other Genesis games, Namco's line-up is small and lacks masterpieces.
The eras beyond the 16-bit era are no different. Namco makes great arcade games that compare nicely to Sega's but Sega has a ton of home franchises that Namco doesn't aside from a few rare gems like Klonoa.
The bottom line is: Namco is great and they have individual games that can be compared to Sega's, but overall Namco cannot touch the hold Sega has on gaming as a whole, especially console gaming past the early '80's.
Werewolf- Namco developed Pac-Man. Midway was just publishing it here. Ms. Pac-Man, however, is a Midway-only alteration of the original.