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Originally posted by Shou-sama
Actually, his regular counters are really only used in defensive situations like with counter/double throw escape. I use them in battle to reverse half circular risings or other occasions but the risk (you can eat a 40-50% counter hit combo) vs the reward (30 damage) isn't really worth it. I like the mental damage which is why I use it and I can guess what the opponent does in certain situations pretty well. The sabaki counter (B+P+K+G) is pretty good to use since it can net you a free SPOD or damaging combo but again the risk is great.
Hahaha, I guess I just live in a fantasy world where one day I'll be able to play a perfect round with Akira or Aoi and reverse everything. But you're right about the viability of them; I guess I just love the psychological effect of smashing your opponent across the ring as well.
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Playing VF at a proficient level is a combination of 3 things, knowledge of the game, execution of moves/combos and the ability to read what your opponent will do. Akira requires you to do these 3 things at a decent level to be successful. Many of his big moves are slow but his standing and crouching punch are fast as well as his double palm which is the fastest mid hit in the game and reaches halfway across the screen. The knee isn't that important to his game but it's quite impressive to see (I love doing a guard break and then knee combo if the opponent can't struggle well).
Yeah, it's only impressive if your opponent knows how tough it is though, heh. His double palm may be fast in execution, but inputting the command takes a little while. I realise there's a way to buffer the charge D part of it, but it still doesn't seem like something you can pull out at will.
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Lau is basic but strong. His hits hurt, his throws hurt and he recovers from a lot of his moves quickly. Basically, he has a hurting answer for every situation.
Yeah, I definitely noticed that part. df,df+p -> ppk alone seems to take off almost half your opponent's life as a counter.
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originally posted by Tain
...See? I told you.
You did?
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Anyway, reading this thread only makes me want VF4 more. Still no news on a Evolution home (X-Box) port, so I think I may want to finally drop the money for a PS2. At least, after Ikaruga and KoF '01.
I was in the same boat as you - I was gonna wait and see if Evolution landed on Xbox, but I cracked. I decided I didn't feel like waiting a year for it. I have no complaints about the PS2 itself; it makes PS games look better, and it'll let you play Contra, Suikoden, Rygar, Shinobi etc. this fall. And there seems to be a fair chance we'll see a domestic version of KoF 2001 for it, which I may wait for (hey, Sega ditched me way before I ditched them).
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Originally posted by Reno
Lau has f+P, P and b,f+P! You should see the kind of stuff you could get from those two moves alone!
You'll have to show me sometime.