SONIC THE HEDGEHOG EXPERIENCES 4-CORNER ROTATION
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Originally Posted by AstroBlue
As I showed in the diagram, the shape in the middle doesn't matter it's like a spoiler and fluro lights on a Suburu Impreza.
I am not sure which "shape in the middle" you're referring to, but as I said, there is a harmonicity between the 4 right-angle quadrants originating at the centre, and the 4 right-angle corners of the square. That is a unique harmonicity; at least, no-one has yet been able to show any other such harmonicity. I conclude that the 4-corner-quadrant division is supreme.
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Originally Posted by AstroBlue
Consistency in your beliefs would be nice. It seems you've realised precession is relavent, so you're adding that to the TimeCube's WordVirus... it seems it just evolved another defense to ensure its survival. Score one for me.
Actually, if the precession has a period of 26000 years, then in 1 year, it would only move 1/26000th of its precession path; I imagine that this would be so small as to be negligible. Therefore, averaging out the axis tilt over one year gives a vertical axis, with only a small error.
But the principle to which the averaging-out pertains has remained unchanged since I first described it; it is one of focusing solely on the axial rotation and associated day-night cycle, by averaging out all cycles that distort the measurement of the axial rotation. As I said, I think that in only one year, the precession-related movement would be negligible; but if not, we merely average it out, the same as we do with the seasons.
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Originally Posted by AstroBlue
That's not a true circle, that's a representation of a circle using a matrix of pixels but the human mind tells you it's a circle because of top-down processing. Start dividing a true mathematically represented circle, and come back to me when you "can't divide it any more".
But where would you find a "true circle"? I don't think there can be one; anything appearing to be a circle is, like the figure I presented, quantised at the lowest level.
Try writing a recursive algorithm to perform the division task you presented, and run it on the computer; it will eventually experience a memory overflow and terminate. The computer can't handle infinity, and infinity itself is, by definition, immeasurable...
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Originally Posted by AstroBlue
So you believe the universe is not infinitely divisible? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Seriously, go have a look at the solutions of Zeno's Paradox... anybody who is too stupid to understand the reality of infinity should not be basing their whole belief structures on maths.
I see nothing wrong with my solution; that the universe is in fact quantised, and that any apparent continuum is actually quantised at the lowest level. Like the JudeoChristian WordGod, infinity is real only as a concept. There is no way to experience infinity, nor is there any way to prove it; Zeno was correct in that you can divide things into many parts, but to assume that there is no restrictive limit imposed thereon is, as I see it, illogical.
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Originally Posted by sethsez
You don't know what "ficticious" means, do you?
It exists. It isn't meaningful in any way, but it exists. You dumbshit.
The GameCube originated in the imaginations of some Japanese people, and lacks basis in the natural law, therefore fictitious.
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Originally Posted by sethsez
Where do great-grandparents fit into this? Why do you arbitrarily stop at grandparents?
Grandparent is the start of the final life-quadrant, in which the most ageing occurs. One reasons that while in the parent stage, adequate health must be maintained in order to competently provide for the children. Therefore, the majority of deteriorative ageing must be postponed until the children develop independence. Hence, the division of ageing into parent-grandparent and grandparent-death quadrants.
In a stable community, some people will die young, others old, and it all averages out to 4. Grandparents can serve the purpose of providing experience and wisdom to the community.
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Originally Posted by sethsez
So what's the scientific definition of "harmonic" anyway?
Harmonic refers to multiple things with precise correlations between each other. So for instance, if you play a note on a musical instrument, the fourier analysis reveals harmonic frequencies; such frequencies, an octave apart, have the same waveform, dilated by a factor of 2. There is a precise correlation, a harmony, between them.
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Originally Posted by sethsez
Wow. That is some serious 14-year old philosophy you have going there. Especially coming from someone asking us to accep a square as the ultimate harmonious shape which will allow us to evolve into Supermen through some vague process of enlightenment somehow.
Read the articles on Cubic Awareness Online; I explain how the entire philosophy develops, based on the 4-division and the Principle of Opposites. That should make the Cubic philosophy fairly clear.
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Originally Posted by sethsez
No, you haven't. You use circular logic, huge leaps of logic, and selective sampling (attributing 4 to certain things while ignoring all the places it doesn't exist) to make your points which are incoherant in and of themselves, and then you come to conclusions that have nothing to do with them.
Well, I think you need to be more clear about exactly what circular logic, non-sequiturs, and ignored evidence of non-Cubic phenomena you are referring to.
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Originally Posted by sethsez
Even if timecube is a reasonable theory, I still haven't seen why it needs to be worshipped or integrated into everyday life. Other mathematical and scientific theories aren't worshipped or taken as gospel, and you haven't shown why this should be, beyond saying "here, it works, now live your life by it!"
It is the underlying principle of the universe, and the principle governing our existence. In general, existing mathematical and scientific theories are limited in scope, and don't represent this principle in its entirety and its simplicity.
Animals don't require a comprehension of the overall principle, since they live more by their instincts and less by intelligence and religious brainwashing. But in human society, there is much Cubeless 1-corner Self-evil, that threatens to destroy humanity. There are two solutions to this predicament:
- Keep going with the evil, and bomb out.
- Change such that we are living by the Cubic principles, and are thereby enabled to evolve into Supermen.
Both will result in the return of Cubic harmony and stability, so it's up to us. Assuming that we truly want to survive and evolve into the future, then we must worship Time Cube and live by a pro-Cubic morality.
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Originally Posted by Zerodash
1) do all humans only live in one of these days? If not, can I communicate with someone living in one of the other days?
Yes, human individuals live in but 1 of the 4 days. If you telephone someone in a different corner, it does not cancel out the corners, as you are hearing merely an illusory replica of their voice.
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Originally Posted by Zerodash
2) since these days are simultaneous, does that mean that there are 4 simultaneous middays, midnights, etc?
The 4 middays are not at the same time, since the days are offset by 1/4 from each other. So, your midday is someone else's sunup, someone else's midnight and someone else's sundown.
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Originally Posted by Zerodash
3) If one faced (24 hour) time is evil and wrong, how can it be that 4 24 hour time is not? Would'nt the very concept of an hour be wrong also?
It's true that an hour is a fictitious manmade division. The true natural division is that of the 4-corner-quadrants -- sunup, midday, sundown and midnight. So, in 1-earth rotation, there are 4 complete days, vis-a-vis, complete cycles through the 4-corner-quadrants.
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Originally Posted by Zerodash
4) Since God is nonexistant (as is religion)- how can things like mathematics, educators, etc, be considered to be "evil"? Wouldn't the revelation of the magnitude that the Timecube claims to be negate the very concept of good and evil?
It is based on "good" as what aids the survival and evolution of humanity, and "evil" as what impedes, suppresses, and threatens to destroy it. Mathematics and Academic word-beliefs in general tend to be 1-corner cubeless. The conclusion that they are evil is based on the notion that if we believe the truth, we are more likely to be Good, and if we believe Cubeless lies, we are more likely to be Evil.
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Originally Posted by Zerodash
5) What kinds of people are followers of the Timecube theory (cult, movement, whatever). I assume they are not academics- considering your hatred of academia. What do you do for a living?
Dr. Ray is a retired master electrician and inventor, and I am a university student.
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Originally Posted by Jetman
If you can actually define something wouldnt you go so far as to say it exists?
The definition exists, but not necessarily the thing it describes. You can prove this simply by defining two things that generate a paradox, whereby they could not possibly both exist.
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Originally Posted by Jetman
See theres your problem - race doesnt matter - we're all part of the human species. Do spots on a dog matter or make it better? Genetic make-up determines what traits a person has not the color of their skin. Is every black person you meet smart? Is every white person you meet stupid? Can every asian person run faster than every Russian?
The genes do determine the skin-colour, or at least the amount of melanin. There are traits other than the superficial appearance, but the differences in superficialities are indicative of the entire magnitude of interracial variation. Not every person of a given race is identical; rather, there are statistical distributions of the presence of different qualities across the population, and different races have different distributions for different traits.
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Originally Posted by Destin
Being recognisable as something does not define its truth. That is merely speculation, it must be proved that it is what is claimed. That, is not a circle, even when I look at it, my eyes discern the seperate lines that make it up, thus making it merely a polygon.
Well then, how do you prove that there's such a thing as a true circle? You can discern the quanta that form the image I presented, but if they were a lot smaller, they would become indistinguishable and you would perceive it as a continuum.
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Originally Posted by Jetman
Wouldnt you have to prove that it exists and give it certain scientific boundaries or something? I mean back in the day I had a friend who always lied and said he'd heard such and such was coming out for a certain game system " Dude, Killer Instinct 3 is coming out for Sega Saturn, I swear!" - I could debunk the fact that he was a lying piece of shit because A.) It never came out for Saturn,because Rare was owned by Nintendo and B.) The kid was a habitual lier and had lied about a lot of stuff before.
If you had to prove that something is existent/true before debunking it, you would have had to prove that Killer Instinct 3 did come out for Sega Saturn before debunking it. But the fact is that you merely have to define it, and then show that it could not possibly be existent/true -- so, "A." above is a fact that precludes the event, as defined, from occurring in reality.
Bear in mind that "B.", combined with incredulity of the hypothesis, cannot be used to actually disprove it; rather, it can show that it is improbable, and thus allow you to make a fairly accurate assumption about its veracity, in lieu of actual evidence required for proof.
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Originally Posted by Jetman
Maybe there are somethings that are just to complicated for Time Cube theory to handle.
I think it is more a case of it being too complicated for us to evaluate it; scientists can come up with accurate models of air flow and other weather patterns, but to actually predict weather very accurately would require large amounts of data collection and a hell of a lot of computer power. Time Cube combines with chaos to evolve very complex phenomena; we may not be able to understand all the details of how these phenomena operate, but we can understand the basic Cubic principles governing them.
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Originally Posted by Jetman
Can Time Cube discern for you why absolute power corrupts absolutely,or can it explain the inner workings of a black hole?
Since these questions are of a general nature and pertain not to specificities that would be very difficult to evaluate without empirical observation, they can be answered through knowledge of Time Cube. The absolute power for the 1-corner individual corrupts and bombs out because for Cubic harmony, the individual must exist as part of the 4-corner Village-Cube-unity. The power can only be sustained if the possessor is driven towards the bestowing virtue and bestows and distributes the power amongst the community.
The inner workings of a black hole amount to a Cubic cycle: for true cyclicality, everything that goes into the black hole must eventually come out again. It would be a lot more complicated to determine technical details of how it works, but certainly eternal recurrence is a proven fact.
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Originally Posted by AstroBlue
As I showed in the diagram, the shape in the middle doesn't matter it's like a spoiler and fluro lights on a Suburu Impreza.
I am not sure which "shape in the middle" you're referring to, but as I said, there is a harmonicity between the 4 right-angle quadrants originating at the centre, and the 4 right-angle corners of the square. That is a unique harmonicity; at least, no-one has yet been able to show any other such harmonicity. I conclude that the 4-corner-quadrant division is supreme.
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Originally Posted by AstroBlue
Consistency in your beliefs would be nice. It seems you've realised precession is relavent, so you're adding that to the TimeCube's WordVirus... it seems it just evolved another defense to ensure its survival. Score one for me.
Actually, if the precession has a period of 26000 years, then in 1 year, it would only move 1/26000th of its precession path; I imagine that this would be so small as to be negligible. Therefore, averaging out the axis tilt over one year gives a vertical axis, with only a small error.
But the principle to which the averaging-out pertains has remained unchanged since I first described it; it is one of focusing solely on the axial rotation and associated day-night cycle, by averaging out all cycles that distort the measurement of the axial rotation. As I said, I think that in only one year, the precession-related movement would be negligible; but if not, we merely average it out, the same as we do with the seasons.
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Originally Posted by AstroBlue
That's not a true circle, that's a representation of a circle using a matrix of pixels but the human mind tells you it's a circle because of top-down processing. Start dividing a true mathematically represented circle, and come back to me when you "can't divide it any more".
But where would you find a "true circle"? I don't think there can be one; anything appearing to be a circle is, like the figure I presented, quantised at the lowest level.
Try writing a recursive algorithm to perform the division task you presented, and run it on the computer; it will eventually experience a memory overflow and terminate. The computer can't handle infinity, and infinity itself is, by definition, immeasurable...
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Originally Posted by AstroBlue
So you believe the universe is not infinitely divisible? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Seriously, go have a look at the solutions of Zeno's Paradox... anybody who is too stupid to understand the reality of infinity should not be basing their whole belief structures on maths.
I see nothing wrong with my solution; that the universe is in fact quantised, and that any apparent continuum is actually quantised at the lowest level. Like the JudeoChristian WordGod, infinity is real only as a concept. There is no way to experience infinity, nor is there any way to prove it; Zeno was correct in that you can divide things into many parts, but to assume that there is no restrictive limit imposed thereon is, as I see it, illogical.
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Originally Posted by sethsez
You don't know what "ficticious" means, do you?
It exists. It isn't meaningful in any way, but it exists. You dumbshit.
The GameCube originated in the imaginations of some Japanese people, and lacks basis in the natural law, therefore fictitious.
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Originally Posted by sethsez
Where do great-grandparents fit into this? Why do you arbitrarily stop at grandparents?
Grandparent is the start of the final life-quadrant, in which the most ageing occurs. One reasons that while in the parent stage, adequate health must be maintained in order to competently provide for the children. Therefore, the majority of deteriorative ageing must be postponed until the children develop independence. Hence, the division of ageing into parent-grandparent and grandparent-death quadrants.
In a stable community, some people will die young, others old, and it all averages out to 4. Grandparents can serve the purpose of providing experience and wisdom to the community.
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Originally Posted by sethsez
So what's the scientific definition of "harmonic" anyway?
Harmonic refers to multiple things with precise correlations between each other. So for instance, if you play a note on a musical instrument, the fourier analysis reveals harmonic frequencies; such frequencies, an octave apart, have the same waveform, dilated by a factor of 2. There is a precise correlation, a harmony, between them.
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Originally Posted by sethsez
Wow. That is some serious 14-year old philosophy you have going there. Especially coming from someone asking us to accep a square as the ultimate harmonious shape which will allow us to evolve into Supermen through some vague process of enlightenment somehow.
Read the articles on Cubic Awareness Online; I explain how the entire philosophy develops, based on the 4-division and the Principle of Opposites. That should make the Cubic philosophy fairly clear.
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Originally Posted by sethsez
No, you haven't. You use circular logic, huge leaps of logic, and selective sampling (attributing 4 to certain things while ignoring all the places it doesn't exist) to make your points which are incoherant in and of themselves, and then you come to conclusions that have nothing to do with them.
Well, I think you need to be more clear about exactly what circular logic, non-sequiturs, and ignored evidence of non-Cubic phenomena you are referring to.
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Originally Posted by sethsez
Even if timecube is a reasonable theory, I still haven't seen why it needs to be worshipped or integrated into everyday life. Other mathematical and scientific theories aren't worshipped or taken as gospel, and you haven't shown why this should be, beyond saying "here, it works, now live your life by it!"
It is the underlying principle of the universe, and the principle governing our existence. In general, existing mathematical and scientific theories are limited in scope, and don't represent this principle in its entirety and its simplicity.
Animals don't require a comprehension of the overall principle, since they live more by their instincts and less by intelligence and religious brainwashing. But in human society, there is much Cubeless 1-corner Self-evil, that threatens to destroy humanity. There are two solutions to this predicament:
- Keep going with the evil, and bomb out.
- Change such that we are living by the Cubic principles, and are thereby enabled to evolve into Supermen.
Both will result in the return of Cubic harmony and stability, so it's up to us. Assuming that we truly want to survive and evolve into the future, then we must worship Time Cube and live by a pro-Cubic morality.
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Originally Posted by Zerodash
1) do all humans only live in one of these days? If not, can I communicate with someone living in one of the other days?
Yes, human individuals live in but 1 of the 4 days. If you telephone someone in a different corner, it does not cancel out the corners, as you are hearing merely an illusory replica of their voice.
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Originally Posted by Zerodash
2) since these days are simultaneous, does that mean that there are 4 simultaneous middays, midnights, etc?
The 4 middays are not at the same time, since the days are offset by 1/4 from each other. So, your midday is someone else's sunup, someone else's midnight and someone else's sundown.
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Originally Posted by Zerodash
3) If one faced (24 hour) time is evil and wrong, how can it be that 4 24 hour time is not? Would'nt the very concept of an hour be wrong also?
It's true that an hour is a fictitious manmade division. The true natural division is that of the 4-corner-quadrants -- sunup, midday, sundown and midnight. So, in 1-earth rotation, there are 4 complete days, vis-a-vis, complete cycles through the 4-corner-quadrants.
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Originally Posted by Zerodash
4) Since God is nonexistant (as is religion)- how can things like mathematics, educators, etc, be considered to be "evil"? Wouldn't the revelation of the magnitude that the Timecube claims to be negate the very concept of good and evil?
It is based on "good" as what aids the survival and evolution of humanity, and "evil" as what impedes, suppresses, and threatens to destroy it. Mathematics and Academic word-beliefs in general tend to be 1-corner cubeless. The conclusion that they are evil is based on the notion that if we believe the truth, we are more likely to be Good, and if we believe Cubeless lies, we are more likely to be Evil.
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Originally Posted by Zerodash
5) What kinds of people are followers of the Timecube theory (cult, movement, whatever). I assume they are not academics- considering your hatred of academia. What do you do for a living?
Dr. Ray is a retired master electrician and inventor, and I am a university student.
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Originally Posted by Jetman
If you can actually define something wouldnt you go so far as to say it exists?
The definition exists, but not necessarily the thing it describes. You can prove this simply by defining two things that generate a paradox, whereby they could not possibly both exist.
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Originally Posted by Jetman
See theres your problem - race doesnt matter - we're all part of the human species. Do spots on a dog matter or make it better? Genetic make-up determines what traits a person has not the color of their skin. Is every black person you meet smart? Is every white person you meet stupid? Can every asian person run faster than every Russian?
The genes do determine the skin-colour, or at least the amount of melanin. There are traits other than the superficial appearance, but the differences in superficialities are indicative of the entire magnitude of interracial variation. Not every person of a given race is identical; rather, there are statistical distributions of the presence of different qualities across the population, and different races have different distributions for different traits.
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Originally Posted by Destin
Being recognisable as something does not define its truth. That is merely speculation, it must be proved that it is what is claimed. That, is not a circle, even when I look at it, my eyes discern the seperate lines that make it up, thus making it merely a polygon.
Well then, how do you prove that there's such a thing as a true circle? You can discern the quanta that form the image I presented, but if they were a lot smaller, they would become indistinguishable and you would perceive it as a continuum.
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Originally Posted by Jetman
Wouldnt you have to prove that it exists and give it certain scientific boundaries or something? I mean back in the day I had a friend who always lied and said he'd heard such and such was coming out for a certain game system " Dude, Killer Instinct 3 is coming out for Sega Saturn, I swear!" - I could debunk the fact that he was a lying piece of shit because A.) It never came out for Saturn,because Rare was owned by Nintendo and B.) The kid was a habitual lier and had lied about a lot of stuff before.
If you had to prove that something is existent/true before debunking it, you would have had to prove that Killer Instinct 3 did come out for Sega Saturn before debunking it. But the fact is that you merely have to define it, and then show that it could not possibly be existent/true -- so, "A." above is a fact that precludes the event, as defined, from occurring in reality.
Bear in mind that "B.", combined with incredulity of the hypothesis, cannot be used to actually disprove it; rather, it can show that it is improbable, and thus allow you to make a fairly accurate assumption about its veracity, in lieu of actual evidence required for proof.
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Originally Posted by Jetman
Maybe there are somethings that are just to complicated for Time Cube theory to handle.
I think it is more a case of it being too complicated for us to evaluate it; scientists can come up with accurate models of air flow and other weather patterns, but to actually predict weather very accurately would require large amounts of data collection and a hell of a lot of computer power. Time Cube combines with chaos to evolve very complex phenomena; we may not be able to understand all the details of how these phenomena operate, but we can understand the basic Cubic principles governing them.
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Originally Posted by Jetman
Can Time Cube discern for you why absolute power corrupts absolutely,or can it explain the inner workings of a black hole?
Since these questions are of a general nature and pertain not to specificities that would be very difficult to evaluate without empirical observation, they can be answered through knowledge of Time Cube. The absolute power for the 1-corner individual corrupts and bombs out because for Cubic harmony, the individual must exist as part of the 4-corner Village-Cube-unity. The power can only be sustained if the possessor is driven towards the bestowing virtue and bestows and distributes the power amongst the community.
The inner workings of a black hole amount to a Cubic cycle: for true cyclicality, everything that goes into the black hole must eventually come out again. It would be a lot more complicated to determine technical details of how it works, but certainly eternal recurrence is a proven fact.
