I had to stop playing the damn game due to my hatred for the control, and my like for glass on my TV...
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I had to stop playing the damn game due to my hatred for the control, and my like for glass on my TV...
I still don't understand all the N64 controller hate. Do you not know how to hold the damn thing? What difference does it make if it has 10 prongs - you only hold 2 (and use the buttons on 2) at any given time.
I don't care about the controller. It's the way they put the controls into the game that I hate... (Although, those fucking C buttons are about the worst thing ever thought of)
Okay. Name a better way to incorporate aiming and moving into one simultaneous control scheme. This isn't GoldenEye - aiming and moving with one stick would just get you killed - often. If you don't like the C buttons, use the d-pad. The N64 controller is the only one that lets you use both simultaneously. I wish every controller was designed with that in mind.
Yeah, I'm with Burg on this. The controls work beautifully and are setup great, I'm not sure how one could hate that. Attacking is handled with one hand, movement and jumping with the other, and all the controls can be used at once.
Epsilon-2: I think I know the one you're talking of, and it always looked to me like the left side was too big to hold properly (as opposed to the N64's prongs that are nice to hold). How does the pad feel in your hands?
Well, I tried to use C-buttons to move, but I just cant get used to that, so I stick with D-pad :) My left hand is trained on Dpad much more, than my right on someting like thosr Cbuttons. At least that works out for me better. I will practice more on Fast Dodge, and better timing of Sword attacks. When you battle with Brad on the Carrier, and have swords locked, you need to tap trigger button fast, otherwise he gains advantage, and will slash you with his sword.
Burg, The game is excellent. Awesome mix of action, challenging boss fights, for which you have to use strategy(I love this part). It was pretty much the ONLY game I bought my N64 for, and I'm glad it didnt dissapoint. The only thing that kinda bugs me,(other then controller), its some of character voices. THey sound like kindergarden kids(girls mostly). :)
Another question, When battling the Boss in lava, after Saki changes for the first time, in the second form, Boss does lava dive, and its like a tidal wave that damages you alot. Is there any valid way to avoid it, or its just about timing it right. Because, I dashed to the right edge of the screen, and did double high jump, and was able to dodge it, but previous times, it didnt work that well.
Right but is that before you gave the C-buttons a chance? Obviously most of us are more "trained" with a Dpad on left hand, but considering the accuracy needed for the game, you really need to have your left hand on the analog cursor.Quote:
Originally posted by Despair
Well, I tried to use C-buttons to move, but I just cant get used to that, so I stick with D-pad :) My left hand is trained on Dpad much more, than my right on someting like thosr Cbuttons. At least that works out for me better.
I think more than anything else you need to practice with your left hand on analog, and your right hand controlling your character. Because after an hour or two, you'll think of the scheme is brilliant.
Like I said, this setup is by far the best because you have access to the jump button easier, and can switch between lockon and off easily because it's readily accessable.
Seriously.. do not even consider the D-pad as an option. The game will work out much better for you.
Like you said, the double jump is the only way to avoid it. Just strafing doesn't work. You just have to time your double jump well.Quote:
Another question, When battling the Boss in lava, after Saki changes for the first time, in the second form, Boss does lava dive, and its like a tidal wave that damages you alot. Is there any valid way to avoid it, or its just about timing it right. Because, I dashed to the right edge of the screen, and did double high jump, and was able to dodge it, but previous times, it didnt work that well.
That's probably the only stage I do well at. I can do the lava stage maybe w/o even getting hit once ^^;
Despair - S&P is well worth the price of itself, a N64, and anything needed for conversion/modification.
About the voices - Yeah, they kinda suck, but at least they're in English. Also keep in mind that most of the characters *are* females, and the males are pretty effeminate. I didn't realize Saki was a male until far later in the game. I actually enjoy the bad voice acting - it makes the game seem more like interactive polygonal anime (is that an oxymoron?) to me.
About the lava waves - Like Tsu said, double jumping is the key, though it's tough to time. I usually just take my licks there and try to make it up offensively or on the other segments.
My only problem with the N64 controller is that it was designed for smaller hands. I had to hold it at a weird angle to be able to play anything, which would cause a lot of discomfort after a while. Those yellow buttons made it really easy to adjust the camera in platformers and were perfect movement keys in first-person shooters though.
I thought Saki was a girl too :) Until he spoke with guy voice :p
Tsubaki, I tried aiming with Analog with my left hand but so far it doesnt work very well. Maybe with more practice I can reach better results, and same goes for using Cbuttons with right hand. It just after playing and using certain setup, or the way of controlling the game(PS2, Xbox, DC way), its kinda hard for me with N64 pad, but I think with time I might become better.
Yes, Its true that English voices are better than nothing, but still it very strange to see action game, with darker themes, and characters speaking with voices of first graders :)