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17 Apr 2003, 08:02 PM
Mr_Furious

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Originally posted by MechDeus
He's suggesting something like the shooter equivilant of Soul Calibur

Can anyone give an example of this type of shooter? I believe the shooter genre has been a niche genre for almost 20 years. The fact is, mainstream U.S.A. lacks the hand/eye coordination and just gets frustrated so they simply don't play them. They haven't really played them since the early 8-bit/Atari days. I'm not sure there is a design that could be put into a shooter that would attract the non-shooter player so why bother. It would have to remain too simple for shooter fans to enjoy. Isay, stick with small teams and crank out innovative niche products that can make money selling 50k copies.

Btw, comparing shooters to fighters is beyond lame. People who don't really like fighting games (or games period) can still appreciate giving a good ass kicking and games like Soul Caliber make you look damn cool doing it. Apples to oranges.
17 Apr 2003, 08:05 PM
MechDeus

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Originally posted by Aurora
Why do you think the Soul Edge/Calibur games have such glorious extra modes? Why does Tekken have to put volleyball/bowling or whatever the fuck they put in the games, heh. Why does VF4 gave such kickass modes?

Actually, I do often wonder about those. SC's extras gave me all of four hours of something to do, Tekken's extras are generally worthless and Tekken Force has always been annoying as hell to me. VF4 I can kind of see because they actually added something that built upon the game itself while tossing in extra clothing just for show.
17 Apr 2003, 08:15 PM
Shin Johnpv

doing better in the game
can make it through the first chapter with out dieing and can make it through the second one in about 2 credits

i got to the end of the 3rd chapter but it for sure reason wont let me practice on the 3rd one at all saying i didnt reach there but i did
17 Apr 2003, 08:26 PM
Eightbitbreaks

You gotta beat the chapter.

The 4th chapter is kicking my ass curently. :(
17 Apr 2003, 08:27 PM
Hero

for some reason, after not playing for two months, I sat down last week and got the highest scores I've ever done and went all the way to third chapter before dying. And then...brick wall ><
17 Apr 2003, 08:36 PM
Celeryface

Just picked up my copy!

Snagged the free Everquest Online Adventures demo disc, too. ;p
17 Apr 2003, 09:45 PM
MechDeus

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Originally posted by Mr_Furious
Btw, comparing shooters to fighters is beyond lame. People who don't really like fighting games (or games period) can still appreciate giving a good ass kicking and games like Soul Caliber make you look damn cool doing it. Apples to oranges.

We're talking ideas, not exact execution.

Local Funco is sold out, seems to be a good sign.
17 Apr 2003, 11:21 PM
Mr_Furious

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Originally posted by MechDeus
We're talking ideas, not exact execution.

And that's what I'm asking. Does anyone have any ideas that would get Mainstream USA to pay attention to the shooter genre (and no, I don't think tons of modes would help as there are plenty of games that offered this but still didn't mega-sell)?

It's a valid question as there are posters here that believe it's possible but without a good example on how, your general statement will have little to no weight.
17 Apr 2003, 11:28 PM
Shin Johnpv

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Originally posted by Mr_Furious
And that's what I'm asking. Does anyone have any ideas that would get Mainstream USA to pay attention to the shooter genre (and no, I don't think tons of modes would help as there are plenty of games that offered this but still didn't mega-sell)?

It's a valid question as there are posters here that believe it's possible but without a good example on how, your general statement will have little to no weight.

i dont think its so much in the game itsself

its in the marketting

air ads for it 10000 times a day on MTV and tell people they have to have this game

itll sell
17 Apr 2003, 11:31 PM
MechDeus

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Originally posted by Mr_Furious
It's a valid question as there are posters here that believe it's possible but without a good example on how, your general statement will have little to no weight.

It has plenty of weight to think that such a thing could be done and is what's needed for the genre, but if I knew exactly what would make games sell I wouldn't be here right now: I'd be out making games sell and earning myself buckets of money.

There's actually a number of thoughts I have on a similar issue, but I was saving all those up for a thread. I'll probably make it soon.

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