The Most Influential Series in Japan

From The Magic Box:

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Japanese publication has conducted a survey for the 15 Most Influential Game Series in Japan, Square's Final Fantasy took the first place with almost 3 times more votes than the second place. Here are the titles

Final Fantasy (Square)
Dragon Quest (Enix)
Biohazard (Capcom)
Super Mario (Nintendo)
Phantasy Star Online (Sega)
Shin Megami Tensei (Atlus)
Street Fighter II (Capcom)
Sangoku Musou (Koei)
Genso Suikoden (Konami)
Metal Gear (Konami)
Zelda (Nintendo)
Virtua Fighter (Sega)
Tactics Ogre (Quest)
Xenogears (Square)
Super Robot Taisen (Banpresto)

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I want to know why Phantasy Star Online and Street Fighter II were separated from the rest of their respective series.

I didn't think Biohazard was that big of deal there.

I'm surprised to see Zelda so far down. I never would have thought that Mario was more respected in Japan then Zelda.

Xenogears stands alone? What's up with that? Is it the only single game on that list?

GO! Capcom

Pretty good list. Xenogears makes absolutely no sense, but other than that it seems accurate.

Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest are no surprise, but Biohazard is higher than Super Mario???:wtf: :eek: :confused:

Hrm, I always thought Dragon Quest was a bit more popular than Final Fantasy over in Japan.

Suikonden, Megaten, and Xenogears never struck me as particularly influencial... And I think Shining Force and Fire Emblem deserve alot more credit than Tactics Ogre...

I think influencial is mistranslated or something, because this list is just stupid.

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Originally posted by x2y
I didn't think Biohazard was that big of deal there.

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heh. Contrary to popular beleif, the japanese gaming market is not entirely made up of dating sims, and No One Can Stop Mr Domino. Biohazard is immensely popular in japan, along with Onimusha, and Devil May Cry. Probably more popular than in the US.

Metal Gear is more popular than Zelda? Hmm... that's a surprise.

I'd also like to point out how wrong it is that Castlevania didn't make this list. I'd like to meet each and every person who thinks PSO is better than Castlevania, so I can punch them in the face.

Damn near every game is better than Castlevania.

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Originally posted by Frogacuda
heh. Contrary to popular beleif, the japanese gaming market is not entirely made up of dating sims, and No One Can Stop Mr Domino. Biohazard is immensely popular in japan, along with Onimusha, and Devil May Cry. Probably more popular than in the US.

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If that's true then Biohazard 0 had better do better than the GC remake did. If not, there is something severely wrong with this list.

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Originally posted by 88mph
Damn near every game is better than Castlevania.

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I bet you're Japanese aren't you... :mad:

Space Invaders should be on that list.

I agree, even though I love Suikoden to death, I don't see why it and stuff like Xenogears is on there. Only DQ and maybe FF since they built and popularized the RPG genre.

I'm surprised Parappa or Beatmania or TokiMemo aren't on there, they too were the first of their respective genres.

I think Nintendo's Nakayama Miho no Tokimeki High School would take credit/blame for starting the date-sim genre.

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Originally posted by Frogacuda
I think influencial is mistranslated or something, because this list is just stupid.

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So are the Japanese. *shrug*

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Originally posted by 88mph
Damn near every game is better than Castlevania.

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And dog shit has more taste than you do... or so I'm told.

PSO rocks Castlevania's ass repeatedly and with little remorse. Then again, PSO rocks pretty much every game's ass repeatedly and with little remorse. Games like Mario Sunshine, for example.

Some more lists....
Take note in the participants involved in this survey.

From GameFront. Translated by babelfish.

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The most important plays, programmers and companies of Japan

04.10.02 - Media Works accomplished and asked an inquiry among 300 pupils and student in the age of 18-24 years, which software producers and series are most popular.
The participants visit all one sucked. Game School, on which they can be trained for a job in the video game industry.
For each answer the participants could assign points, which are located in parentheses:

The most influential and most important series:

1. (399) Finally Fantasy (Square)
2. (102) Dragon Quest (Enix)
3. (63) Biohazard (Capcom)
4. (59) super Mario (Nintendo)
5. (43) Phantasy star on-line one (Sega)
6. (42) Shin Megami Tensei (Atlus)
6. (42) Street Fighter II (Capcom)
8. (41) Sangoku Musou (Koei)
9. (40) Genso Suikoden (Konami)
10.(36) Meal Gear (Konami)
11.(36) Zelda (Nintendo)
12.(33) Virtua Fighter (Sega)
13.(31) Tactics Ogre (Quest)
14.(14) Xenogears (Square)
15.(29) super Robot Wars (Banpresto)

The most important programmers and developers:

1. (205) Hironobu Sakaguchi (producer, among other things. Finally Fantasy )
2. (145) Shigeru Miyamoto (producer, among other things. Mario )
3. (99) Yuji Naka (producer, among other things. Phantasy star on-line one )
4. (89) Tetsuya Nomura (Illustrator, among other things. Finally Fantasy )
5. (83) Yuji Horii (producer, among other things. Dragon Quest )
6. (63) Kazuma Kaneko (Illustrator, among other things. Shin Megami Tensei )
7. (54) Hideo Kojima (producer, among other things. Metal Gear )
8. (53) Yu Suzuki (producer, among other things. Virtua Fighter )
9. (41) Shinji Mikami (producer, among other things. Biohazard )
10.(40) Nobuo Uematsu (composer, among other things. Finally Fantasy )
10.(40) Yoshitaka Amano (Illustrator, among other things. Finally Fantasy )
12.(36) Koichi Nakamura (producer, among other things. Fushigi NO Dungeon )
13.(33) Kou Shibusawa (producer, among other things. Nobunaga's ambition )
14.(30) Hiroi Ouji (producer, among other things. Sakura Wars )
15.(23) Yoshiki Okamoto (producer, among other things. Street Fighter )

The most important companies:

1. (322) Square
2. (198) Sega
3. (180) Capcom
4. (121) Namco
5. (99) Koei
6. (81) Sony computer Entertainment
7. (78) Konami
8. (74) Nintendo
9. (47) Banpresto
10.(41) From software
11.(40) trichloroethylene Ace
12.(37) Atlus
13.(34) Chunsoft
14.(31) Enix
15.(28) Quest

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1. (399) Finally Fantasy (Square)
10.(36) Meal Gear (Konami)

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:lol: Thank goodness for babelfish!

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Originally posted by mid-Ship
Some more lists....
Take note in the participants involved in this survey.

From GameFront. Translated by babelfish.

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That's just a whole lot of votes...

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The participants visit all one sucked.

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Damn straight.

And why does Xenogears have a lower number then Super Robot Wars and yet is higher on the list?

That said, I trust that demographic slightly more then I would my local high school. Except these guys have better taste.

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Originally posted by Yoshi
And dog shit has more taste than you do... or so I'm told.

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I seem to recall us not ever agreeing on anything... why start now?

This list is bullshit - it's nothing more than a popularity contest. Where's Fire Emblem? How are Xenogears, Suikoden, Sangoku Musou, or PSO influential? I put about as much trust in that list as the GameFAQs character battle.

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Originally posted by jiji
This list is bullshit - it's nothing more than a popularity contest. Where's Fire Emblem? How are Xenogears, Suikoden, Sangoku Musou, or PSO influential? I put about as much trust in that list as the GameFAQs character battle.

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Are you saying the GameFAQs battles are only popularity contests?:(

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3. (180) Capcom

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again, GO! Capcom

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Media Works accomplished and asked an inquiry among 300 pupils and student in the age of 18-24 years, which software producers and series are most popular.

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This list is bullshit - it's nothing more than a popularity contest.

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I hate these surveys. They're always different(Usually dramatically) depending on which part of Japan they take the survey from.

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Originally posted by MechDeus
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I rest my case. :)

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Originally posted by Yoshi
I'd also like to point out how wrong it is that Castlevania didn't make this list. I'd like to meet each and every person who thinks PSO is better than Castlevania, so I can punch them in the face.

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In what way is castlevania inflencial? I think you mist the point of this list. I know PSO isn't really original or influencial either, but since the japanese refuse to acknowledge the existance of American PC gaming, I think they'd just like to beleive that Diablo never existed, and PSO invented the genre.

I find this "survey" severely flawed. I'm pretty sure that any one can take this survey, qualified or not. I think that the number one qualification should be that you have to be old enough to have played many of the game's first in the series, back when it first came out. That's the only way to proper gauge how "influential" they could be. Many kids that never really played games prior to the Playstation probably filled out the survey and it looks more like a popularity contest than anything else.

just my two cents

MR Furious:
Please reread mid-Ship's reposting of the survey until you see the line "among 300 pupils and student in the age of 18-24 years".

Those are two of the whiniest cents I've ever heard.

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Originally posted by 88mph
I seem to recall us not ever agreeing on anything... why start now?

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Fair enough. Apprently Contra (the user, not the game) belongs in your camp as well.

I'm still trying to figure out why Contra is comparing PSO, Castlevania, and Super Mario Sunshine in the same post.

Just saying that I like PSO better than most games that generate "buzz" here including Castlevania, Sunshine, Ikaruga, GTA, Gungrave... and so on. They're all great but PSO is that much better in my opinion, and deserves it's spot.

*gets punched in the face*

The Bemani games should have been there...

most games that generate "buzz"

and PSO doesn't?

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2. (198) Sega

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If the Japanese like Sega so much, why don't they buy Sega games?

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Originally posted by Seven Force
The Bemani games should have been there...

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I wanted to say the same thing, but pretty much Konami is only competing with themselves so they only influence themselves. Maybe DDR and the other Bemani games have come and gone like a fad?

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Originally posted by Contra
PSO rocks Castlevania's ass repeatedly and with little remorse. Then again, PSO rocks pretty much every game's ass repeatedly and with little remorse. Games like Mario Sunshine, for example.

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Does it rock Contra's ass too? Maybe you should think about changing your username. ;)

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Originally posted by dog$
MR Furious:
Please reread mid-Ship's reposting of the survey until you see the line "among 300 pupils and student in the age of 18-24 years".

Those are two of the whiniest cents I've ever heard.

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I was right so my point still stands! BOO.FUCKIN.HOO!

I'd be bothered by such a shitty list, and would quickly criticise them, then I see Top 15 Videogames in North America (For August 2002)1 Madden NFL 2002 930,329.

Every market is full of morons.

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Originally posted by Mr_Furious
I was right
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But, no, you weren't.

You said the people that took the survey were kids. They weren't.

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Originally posted by dog$

But, no, you weren't.

You said the people that took the survey were kids. They weren't.

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'Under 24' is a kid as far as I'm concerned...

Eh, I'd argue, but it's not worth it.

Any list that puts Final Faggotry on top of anything but a steaming pile of shit isn't worth my time :)

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Originally posted by Yoshi
I'd also like to point out how wrong it is that Castlevania didn't make this list. I'd like to meet each and every person who thinks PSO is better than Castlevania, so I can punch them in the face.

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You're going to have a sore hand!

They are talking about most influential and PSO is defineatly deserving to be on that list. It is the first CONSOLE online RPG and was a huge success. Until Final Fantasy Online gets it right, PSO is the defineative Console online RPG.

Where the hell is Mother?!

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Originally posted by Yoshi
From The Magic Box:

Phantasy Star Online (Sega)
Shin Megami Tensei (Atlus)
Sangoku Musou (Koei)
Genso Suikoden (Konami)
Virtua Fighter (Sega)
Tactics Ogre (Quest)
Xenogears (Square)

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Who says Japan's not hardcore? Suikoden represent!