Reply With QuoteAlso, I think I had a little bit too much fun playing "Tuff E Nuff" the other day...or whatever the hell that game is called. I picked it up at a used game store for $3, expecting it to be total trash, but it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
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Yeah, I played Donkey Kong Country 2 all the time as a kid, so I have a very vivid memory of what it SHOULD look like...and trust me, what it looks like on my HDTV just isn't right. It's an abomination. lol. So, I may consider going out and finding a SDTV, just so I can play that game properly.Originally Posted by Some Stupid Japanese Name
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Also, I think I had a little bit too much fun playing "Tuff E Nuff" the other day...or whatever the hell that game is called. I picked it up at a used game store for $3, expecting it to be total trash, but it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
Dude, the first day I went from my shitty RF box to Red/Yellow/White cables on my SNES was like becoming a reborn Christian.
Down with the devil (RF)!
Also, for cheap SD TVs, check your local Goodwill. Much cheaper than craigslist.
Not the regular RCA composite, but once you go to S-Video, yeah, you lose that one pixel horizontal bleed.
This is also why a lot of things have that rainbow banding effect on the Nomad screen.
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It's not just ugly, it's also probably making some barely-noticeable-but-still-really-shouldn't-be-there lag. Might be annoying for certain games. $20 SDTV at Goodwill imo.
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This might seem kind of off topic, but it's not...
I was watching the MLB Network right now, and they had a piece on Justin Morneau of the Minnesota Twins. He was talking about how he has been having balance problems since he got a concussion. They showed him in a specialized gym doing balance exercises, and he was talking about how they were trying to re-train his brain to not recognize the error signals that it gets from his eyes. Because of this problem, he has trouble doing things as simple as tracking objects with his eyes.
The reason I mention this, is that my doctor put me through all of these same exercises, and took me to the same specialized gym to do these workouts to try and fix my problems....and it's the reason why I can only play 2-D video games right now. If any of you have the MLB Network, try to catch that feature on a re-run, it is truly fascinating stuff! Now I'm wondering if my dizzyness/vertio/motion sickness/balance problems are really from the car accident I had that year. Maybe I sustained a concussion from it. It was just weird shit, that I happened to catch this on T.V. right now. It weirded me out....now I know I'm not the only one going through this shit.
No, in this case it's really a matter of these games displaying incorrectly in RGB, even on an old CRT. I don't know if this is an issue unique to the Genesis, but I can just clearly demonstrate the problem here with a few screenshots. On the left you have a clear image of what the Genesis is actually outputting (this is how it looks in Component) and on the right, you have an approximation of how the game looks when accounting for the one-pixel wide bleed that is naturally produced by RF and and composite video. Notice the nasty horizontal bar effect on the left?
In some games (like EWJ) it's subtle. In others (like Duke 3D), it's utterly eye-searing in RGB.
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I just tried Sonic in s-video expecting a little bit more bleeding than in those approximated RGB shots, but nope, it was just about as crisp as those. Hella banding. I honestly don't know if the tradeoff is worth it to me, though.
I think Frog and I look at differnt things when determining picture quality. In the games on my setup none of those examples bother me in the slightest, but the blurriness and crap color of the composite connection really do bother me.
Genesis:
* Junction
* 2 Crude Dudes/Crude Buster
* Cadash (If you don't mind being limited to Mage or Fighter. Tough shit if you want to use the Ninja or Priest.)
* Grind Stormer - Not bad but MAME does it with BGM now.
* Steel Empire - Horizontal shooter with some cool "smoking wreckage" effects on larger enemies.
* Air Buster - It is in MAME however.
* Robo Aleste (CD)
* Wonder Dog (CD)
* Wolfchild (both versions- cart & CD soundtracks & level layouts are not quite the same)
* Fire Shark - Somewhat like Truxton with a WWII theme, but better game play.
* Hellfire
* Gaiares
SNES:
* Run Saber
* Super Turrican
* Super Turrican 2 (Not exactly Turrican to the same extent as ST1, but you may still like it)
* Space Megaforce/Super Aleste
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