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  1. That's one of those promo tapes Dreamworks was giving out.

    It has the cursed video on it, and then at the end it gives a link to the website.


    I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo want one.

  2. This is my pick for the best movie of the year. It kinda sucks to be the real relatives of the Morgan's though. But the story being partly true, makes it all the more freaky.
    Blame this on the misfortune of your birth.
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  3. The story was partly true? Please elaborate. And where would I be able to see the Jap version? I'm interested enough in this movie to the point where I'd definitely want to see the Jap version, especially if the ending is that much better than the American one. I just can't get over how cool this movie was though. It was just so freaky! Days after I saw it I was still thinking about it and what it all meant, but most of my questions were answered in this thread. And yep, Naomi Watts is hella beautiful.
    Well that's like, your opinion, man.

  4. Once I get my VCD back from my friend, I can put it on my ftp, and you can leech it from me as long as you're NOT on 56k.

    In fact, I already have disc 2 of this on my HD. If anyone can tell me how to edit it, I'll cut you the ending sequence, and someone can host it for everyone.

  5. My comments/questions:

    Who...or what...was Samara anyways? I don't think she was human, myself. I don't recall any mention of her origins, other than her parents went away, and when they came back, they had Samara with them. Mr. Morgan kept saying "My wife was not supposed to have children", which could be interpreted in a couple different ways. Leaving her origins and intentions unexplained is, in my opinion, a major cop-out. It leaves you with nothing except "It's weird because it's weird." Boo.

    And why could Aiden talk to her, and why would Samara talk to him anyway. Just because "she wanted to be heard"? Because Aiden was a child? How did Aiden know that "she never sleeps"?

    Say Samara is a devil of some kind. What does the devil gain by the spreading of the tape (which I think is a virus created by Samara)? It kills if you don't spread it, which makes sense, I suppose, but why would she want to be heard? I can't help but think it's strongly metaphorical, as far as technology is concerned.

    The horses died because they could sense Samara's "virus" without the benefit of telecommunication (as mentioned in the film), and the horses could also not "spread" the virus like Naomi Watts did. This was how & why the horse on the ferry died after Naomi Watts touched it, I think.

    I think the US version was hella edited in order to get the PG-13 ranking.

    The story was full of anti-technology vibes so prevalent in lots of Japanese anime, which was cool. The Blair Witch "unexplained" bits I didn't care for - it seemed clumsy and unfinished. I'd like to see the Japanese original at some point.

    Still, not only was The Ring released by a US studio, it actually made decent money. Shows what happens when filmmakers come up with some original content (I groaned at the previews I saw for Darkness Falls and They - lord, do THOSE look like the same old crap).

    Satoshi Kon: 1963-2010

  6. I don't think its that Samara is a kind of devil.

    The tape is, more or less, her revenge. For being mistreated and for being killed.

    She was kept in the barn by her "father", because she was driving her mother insane. Thats when the horses started killing themselves. They kept her awake at night, so she dealt with them. The reason the horse on the boat went nuts, is because it could sense the energy of Samara permiating Rachel.

    Some suspension of disbelief is required.
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  7. Originally posted by BioMechanic
    My comments/questions:

    Who...or what...was Samara anyways? I don't think she was human, myself. I don't recall any mention of her origins, other than her parents went away, and when they came back, they had Samara with them. Mr. Morgan kept saying "My wife was not supposed to have children", which could be interpreted in a couple different ways. Leaving her origins and intentions unexplained is, in my opinion, a major cop-out. It leaves you with nothing except "It's weird because it's weird." Boo.
    Not human? Unexplained origin? Nope. http://www.themorganranch.com/sama_psych1.html

    Originally posted by BioMechanic And why could Aiden talk to her, and why would Samara talk to him anyway. Just because "she wanted to be heard"? Because Aiden was a child? How did Aiden know that "she never sleeps"?
    She never talked to him. She "showed him things". Just like she showed everyone else who was infected. The things he told Rachel were from the visions of her that he had in his head.

    Originally posted by BioMechanic
    My comments/questions:Say Samara is a devil of some kind. What does the devil gain by the spreading of the tape (which I think is a virus created by Samara)? It kills if you don't spread it, which makes sense, I suppose, but why would she want to be heard? I can't help but think it's strongly metaphorical, as far as technology is concerned.
    Not a devil, see http://www.themorganranch.com/sama_psych1.html

    And, she doesn't gain anything. Why does a bad guy ever do bad stuff? I mean, take Freddy Krueger (in his human form), he killed all those children in Springfield, mostly because he had a fucked up childhood. For one, he was the "Son of a a hundred Maniacs", and two, his father (PLayed in Freddys Dead by Alice Cooper) beat him. Samara had a FUCKED up childhood, which resulted in her premature death, and now she's one pissed off ghost. Metaphorical? Yeah, probably.

    Originally posted by BioMechanic
    I think the US version was hella edited in order to get the PG-13 ranking.
    It was edited. They lingered on the shots of the victims a lot more in the old version (which were created by Rick Baker by the way.) You can read about the old screenings at http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=13029

    After reading that article, just do a search on that site for "Ring", and you'll find various other accounts.

  8. Korly, I like your taste in films. Another great film I saw this year is The Salton Sea. If you haven't seen it check it out.

    As for the one thing that I couldn't figure out, why are their faces distorded when they take a picture?

    D

  9. Originally posted by dyomides
    Korly, I like your taste in films. Another great film I saw this year is The Salton Sea. If you haven't seen it check it out.

    As for the one thing that I couldn't figure out, why are their faces distorded when they take a picture?

    D
    What's up D......Salton Sea is good, huh? I like Val Kilmer a lot.

    I think their faces were distorted because they had Samara's "virus," which was directly linked to electromagnetic telecommunication, and probably housed in the brain. That aspect reminded me a lot of Lain. Pretty cool effect, regardless.

    Korly - OK, so who was this "specialist overseas?" I think that whole report raises more questions than it answers: "insensitive to pain", "abnormality in temporal lobe", etc. It still doesn't completely explain her origin. And it seems Samara "showed" Aiden lots more than she showed everyone else. I'm not trying to blow holes in the plot, I'm just wondering.

    Hmmm...I never thought Samara was a ghost. Weird stuff was happening even before she died.

    Satoshi Kon: 1963-2010

  10. Hey Bio

    I suppose your right, it just didn't swing with me. It was weird but I just couldn't grasp why. As for Salton Sea it's one of my favorite movies this year, bought the day after I rented it. It's about time Val got some good scripts again. He really doesn't get the attention he deserves. Sometimes I wish he would be more like Depp and pick the oddball films.

    Check the film out and let me know what you think.

    D

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