Metroid Prime Story Questions

[burgundy]

If SR-388 is in the same system as Zebes and Tallon IV, I don't recall seeing it. And even if it is, Metroids are all over the solar system, which is the entire known universe of Metroid.

[Reno]

Originally posted by burgundy
Well, I generally think that trying to coordinate plot details for games that were developed at different times by different people in different countries is going to leave some holes.

My problem with the Fusion detail which said that the Chozo created Metroids is that this doesn't explain how Metroids are found all over the galaxy, and how SR-388 is their home world. Throw in the fact that none of the Chozo scripts in Prime make any reference to Chozo-created Metroids (or X, for that matter), and it seems kinda silly to port Fusion's Metroid theory into Prime. IMO, the X simply have no bearing on the rest of the Metroid series.

Actually the Metroid series has great continuity IMO, despite having different games jumping all over the timeline. The transition from Metroid 1 to 2 to Super Metroid was pretty much flawless (heck, they even included the ending to Metroid 2 in SM) and the move to both Prime and Fusion seemed pretty solid.

From what I remember SR-338 was actually the Chozo's homeworld, and IIRC from the planetary hologram in the Research facility in Phendara Drifts Tallon V, SR-388 and Zebes are in the same solar system. I believe that both Zebes and Tallon V were colonized by the Chozo as well. Considering how technologically advanced the Chozo civilization was made out to be in every game it seems certain, especially if they were in the same system.

I do agree that the X shouldn't have any bearing on what happens in Prime, but Fusion (and I believe other games) state very clearly that it was the Chozo who created the Metroids, so having the Metroid Prime from the actual game crash into the planet seems far-fetched. I do believe that whatever crashed is a living organism, but perhaps it overtook a Metroid and became Prime, and then the Chozo sealed it off.

[Victrix]

That's one possibility, but where did the Metroid who became Prime come from? The Pirates make it pretty clear they brought Metroids there. Or did they mention that they discovered Prime on Tallon? Again, that points to Prime-as-a-meteor, which is lame

[Reno]

Originally posted by Victrix
That's one possibility, but where did the Metroid who became Prime come from? The Pirates make it pretty clear they brought Metroids there. Or did they mention that they discovered Prime on Tallon? Again, that points to Prime-as-a-meteor, which is lame

They mention both actually. In the logs it says that they brought Metroids over (and lost some in the process), and that they "discovered" Metroid Prime. But you can interpret that in two ways

1. One of the lost Metroids somehow chowed down enough Phazon to transform into Metroid Prime and killed off any of the lost Metroids who were deemed as threats to its survival (re: Metroids who were also evolving into the Prime species).

2. The space pirates actually did discover a new species of Metroid that was there before they even arrived.

[burgundy]

Metroid, Metroid 2 and Super Metroid were all developed by the same team. Prime and Fusion were both developed by new teams. That's why I don't think you can hold each one accountable for what the other is saying.

If the X don't exist in Fusion, the theory that the Chozo created Metroids as a response to the X doesn't make much sense in Prime's internal storyline. If that theory is put forth somewhere in Prime or even a previous Metroid, I'd buy it, but I'm not aware that it has.

Another possible explanation is that Phazon is somehow the distilled life energy of Metroids, and specifically of Prime. This could explain how the Quarantine areas of the Mines are infested with Metroids, and how Prime can spawn Metroids using Phazon.

Perhaps the meteor contained Phazon which reacted deep within the Earth with Metroid(s) already existing there. The result was Prime, and the Chozo sealed the Crater before Prime had developed, or before they became aware of it. The other Metroids in the Crater could have been spawned from Prime - hence their constant respawning.

Still, this doesn't explain how the Pirates stumbled across and subdued Prime. Actually, if the Pirates never broke the seal, how did they get access to Prime? I don't see how any explanation remedies that.

[Victrix]

Hmm. Maybe they did leave it open to interpretation.

Ok, how about this - does anyone know of any SPECIFIC data entry that mentions the Pirates breaching the seal on the Phazon core? I want to know how Prime got in there, because they DO talk about encountering Prime, and that makes no sense unless it came out (while the seal was still in place) and then went back in, or they created Prime and it somehow wound up in the core. Either way, the seal had to have been breached (maybe Prime breached it, it was powerful enough to do so on its own or something, fled back in there to recuperate from fights with the pirates or whatever).

[burgundy]

I believe there are several entries that describe the Pirates' attempts to break the seal, but I don't recall anything about them succeeding. Also, the seal was intact until Samus broke it, leading me to believe it hadn't been breached before.

Even if Prime somehow breached the seal, the Pirates referred to finding Prime and somehow trapping it. I don't understand how the Pirates could have returned Prime to the Crater, and even if they could, wouldn't they have set up a little base down there?

[Victrix]

sigh. this makes no sense whatsoever

I sent a message to one of the devs, maybe he'll answer :P

[burgundy]

That's my conclusion. Overall, it makes sense at a glance, but it really falls apart under close scrutiny.

I guess you can get some wiggle room out of the fact that the sources to which we're referring were recorded by different beings at different times, so they might not all be consistent.

[Victrix]

nah, the seal breach is just a huge plot hole. plus, the creature data on Prime is pretty blunt. It would seem that yes, a giant evil Metroid crashed into Tallon for no reason at all, was sealed by the Chozo, came out to eat a few space pirates and assimilate their missiles, then went back to wait in a hole in the ground so it could snack on Samus when she showed up

bleh. I think I'll come up with some meteor theory and use that as my explanation. then I can write bad fanfics and cosplay samus and strangle myself with my long blonde hair. I'm ranting now.