Ikaruga in Stores Today, PLUS Contest Rules!

[Yoshi]

Thanks for not mentioning that the staff couldn't enter, Nick.

[Nick]

Blueskied, every time I have heard the anglicized version of the word, it has had the long "i" ("double e") sound at the end. I know the Japanese language doesn't have syllable stresses like English, but I am not going for the Japanese pronunciation here, anymore than I would use the Japanese word for "rice" when describing what sake was made from.

I am a budding philologist, BTW. ;) Nice to meet you.

[Sync]

Horray more contests! Too bad I lack a Gamecube (now atleast)

[burgundy]

If I quit, can I enter?

[blueskied]

Originally posted by Nick
Blueskied, every time I have heard the anglicized version of the word, it has had the long "i" ("double e") sound at the end. I know the Japanese language doesn't have syllable stresses like English, but I am not going for the Japanese pronunciation here, anymore than I would use the Japanese word for "rice" when describing what sake was made from.

I am a budding philologist, BTW. Nice to meet you.

Japanese loans in English are often butchered (Sake, Karaoke, Kamikaze, etc), much the same as English loans are butchered when borrowed into Japanese. This butchering process is usually due to the phonological makeup of the borrowing language, but with words like "sake", it's mainly due to ignorance of the true native pronunciation and general laziness by the populous. So it rather irritates me. Any English speaking person can say "sa-kay" just as easily as they can mutter out "SAH-kee". The analogy of using the Japanese word for "rice" (which is 'kome' BTW) when describing 'sake' is not accurate--you're comparing substituting an entire (alien) morpheme to a relatively minor phonological alteration in the pronunciation of a loanword.

Some dialects of Japanese DO actually pronounce "sake" as "saki". But I'm referring to standard Tokyo dialect here, much as you'd refer to Standard English when describing the pronunciation of a word like "three" (which, for example, in Hawaii Creole English, is pronounced as "tree").

Nice to meet you too.

[burgundy]

What the winner's sake set MAY or MAY NOT look like:

[thumbnail]http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/pubimage.asp?id_=1916704[/thumbnail]

Photo lovingly stolen from a post on our forums.

[Josh]

Originally posted by blueskied
I'm a linguist BTW.

Originally posted by Nick
I am a budding philologist, BTW. Nice to meet you.

I'm an alcholic, and a smoothie maker.

Pleasure to meet the both of you...

[Captain Vegetable]

Originally posted by burgundy
What the winner's sake set MAY or MAY NOT look like:

[thumbnail]http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/pubimage.asp?id_=1916704[/thumbnail]

Photo lovingly stolen from a post on our forums.

That's pretty freaking nice. Maybe I'll take up sake drinking if'n I win.

[Ryan]

This would be great for my , oh so close to completed , collection

[J2d]

Is everyone collecting Treasure items nowadays?