Matrix Reloaded

[Captain Vegetable]

Cypher.

From what I understand, it was the shortening of Lucipher.

[Rumpy]

Originally posted by Captain Vegetable
Cypher.

From what I understand, it was the shortening of Lucipher.

Sick. Never thought of that. Always thought he had a cool name. Actually, most of them do.

[Delta]

if anyone wants, i can cut all the crap out of the dvd rip i have of the movie and just put the cool fight scenes. it'll only be like 10 minutes long and i'll host it.

the whole movie isn't worth downloading.

[Rhydant]

i downloaded reloaded but i have not been able to force myself to watch it again. it just isn't worth my time.

i downloaded Reloaded, too (hey, i paid my $9 already) and it wont even play.

damnit. it took 3 days, too!

[MVS]

Which one did you get?

If it was the 1.3 gig (with 2 files of 650 megs):

Unzip them all.
Burn each to a disc with the cue sheet.
Use Power DVD to play the .dat file in the MPEG folder on each disc.

Works for me.

[APC]

Originally posted by Delta
if anyone wants, i can cut all the crap out of the dvd rip i have of the movie and just put the cool fight scenes. it'll only be like 10 minutes long and i'll host it.

the whole movie isn't worth downloading.

there is no dvd-rip.

[Dolemite]

Saw it last night. Overall, I thought it was a great movie, but not as good overall as the first one. The beginning was too boring and that rave scene was wayyy too goofy for words. But once the movie got rolling it was really, really good. The fight scenes were really impressive (though CG Neo DID stick out a bit much at times), and the story was decent. Not amazing, but decent. I like it that Smith now appears to be a virus, infecting everyone that he comes in contact with. It appears that he absorbed some of Neo's powers when Neo merged with him in the last movie, and I'm assuming that Neo can now affect machines in the real world now because Smith tried to infect him and failed, but somehow Neo absorbed some of Smith's power as well. Whatever. I didn't think the movie was confusing at all, except for the part where the that Col. Sanders lookalike The Architect was blabbing to Neo, and only because he just jabbered on endlessly and way too fast and I was kinda losing interest. But I got what he was saying.

One thing, though- it's amazing how much of a toll a few years can take on some people. Neo and Morpheus look the same but Agent Smith looked older and Trinity has turned into a real butterface (everything's good "but her face"). Seriously, she was never amazing looking but she was kinda cute in the first movie. You know that part in Reloaded where she jumps out the window shooting at the agent and they show the closeup of her face with the cuts and everything? I swear, she looks like a man. Ugh.

Also, didn't they remove Neo's plugs in the first movie? How are they back?

Still, overall, a really good movie. I'd see it again. As for the whole Reloaded Vs. Equilibrium debate, I'm not sure. I really enjoyed EQ and think it IS better than Reloaded in some ways, and Reloaded kickes EQ's ass in other ways. It's not really fair to compare the two movies, however- they really are two completely different movies that each do their own thing well. If it wasn't for it's painfully boring first 30-40 minutes I would name Reloaded the winner, no question.

[Despair]

Well, concerning Morpheus, he gained quite a bit of weight, which especially look strange taken in effect that Reloaded takes place just few months later in the time line then original Matrix. Zion food must be not quite Fat Free

Didnt you know that those plugs grow back? Or its just another continuity error

As I said, I enjoyed EQ action more. It felt more fresh and exciting, where Reloaded endless slew of fights became tiresome and wasnt that imaginative. Still both are good movies, its just PERSONAL preference.

[Dolemite]

Originally posted by Despair

As I said, I enjoyed EQ action more. It felt more fresh and exciting, where Reloaded endless slew of fights became tiresome and wasnt that imaginative. Still both are good movies, its just PERSONAL preference.

Well, the fights in each movie were different in look, feel, style and purpose. Gun Kata was a pretty damn cool idea, and turned Christain Bale into a killing machine. But the moves he did were still (for the most part) based in reality. Reloaded was more a Hong Kong chop-socky fest where all the action was over the top. I thought the fights in EQ seemed to seve more purpose than Reloaded (the one guy fights Neo just because "you don't really know someone until you fight them" ). I loved the action scenes in EQ but I liked the fights in Reloaded also. As for which more you enjoyed more, you can't be wrong for having an opinion. They're both great movies.

As for Morpheus' gut, well, he wasn't running around bare-chested in the first movie, so for all we know he had it then, too. I was just really concerned at how badly Trinity aged. Like I said, she's a butterface.

Originally posted by Captain Vegetable
But they've been had. They're not "freeing willing minds." What they're doing is helping the machines by weeding out the .01% who will eventually reject the matrix.

When the number of people who reject it gets to a substantial amount, Zion is destroyed.

Zion isn't a real world place, but a second layer to the matrix. It keeps the .01% hopeful, and thus commited to their purpose: freeing new, willing minds.

That is why Zion must be remade after it's destruction. It facilitates the weeding process for the machines.

The Agents have no significant purpose. They create the illusion that the machines do not want the humans meddeling in the matrix, when they, in fact, do. Agent Smith has discovered this, which is why he's trying to stop The One. If he could have stopped The One the system would have collapsed in on itself, as the One is the program used to reset the system itself.

That's why Smith was mouthing off about "purpose." Neo stole his purpose. Now, he has no purpose and is stuck in the matrix as a usless program. Eventually Neo will realize that Smith is trying to stop the system, and join whith him.

VERY interesting speculations. I too have the feeling the Smith and Neo will join forces at some point.

And if Zion is actually another part of the Matrix that'll be a great mind-fuck.

[Despair]

Dolemite, Thats true. But still the 4 year time between films, did affected the look of the characters, where the story takes place in about few months apart.

Trinity did look pretty old, much older than Neo. Even Monica Belutci who played Persephone wasnt looking as good as usual.

What bugged me in action and fight scenes in Reloaded its overreliance on special fx, which hurt those scenes. Plus, as you noted it is a somewhat a throwback to kung fu films of old, but unlike those films the fights were less entertaining, slower and not as hard hitting.

It was still a good for US made action film, but no way as good as it hyped to be.

As for possibility of Zion being still part of the Matrix, or at least a stand alone virtual world that is connected to Matrix it sounds quite valid. That makes sense of Smith being able to possess a human, and Neo being able to shut down Sentinels.

[Dolemite]

Originally posted by Despair
What bugged me in action and fight scenes in Reloaded its overreliance on special fx, which hurt those scenes. Plus, as you noted it is a somewhat a throwback to kung fu films of old, but unlike those films the fights were less entertaining, slower and not as hard hitting.

This is true. Some of the Kung Fu in Reloaded looked more like the actors were trying to get the movements looking as flashy as possible while neglecting to make then look truly hard-hitting. The fights in EQ could be downright brutal, especially the gunshots. The way the shots would explode through people's torsos and kick up all that smoke just looked bad-ass. I did like that EQ did all their fights without FX, but I didn't mind them using FX in Reloaded either, because they were in the Matrix and are supposed to be able to do superhuman things, like batting Smith through a window two stories up. I'm just worried how far movies are going to take this "digital stuntman" thing. You're going to see this more and more often for fight scenes instead of traditional actors and soon we'll get desensitized to crazy action like Reloaded had. And lots of people will appreciate live action stuff even less- "Oh, he can't jump 20 feet in the air and sipn kick 4 guys at once? This movie is lame!". I don't mind some of this CG stuff in fights but I don't want to end up seeing Tom Arnold or someone doing Matrix-style shit.

[Delta]

there is a dvd rip and i have it. i was gonna host the 10 minutes of the film that were good. the dvd rip looks beautiful btw

[Despair]

Check this out:



Morpheus giving critics a finger, over bad reviews and complains

Read it here:

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...324684,00.html

[Drewbacca]

You'd be hard pressed to find a movie with the Matrix's style and special effects. The reviewers main thing was that it was very 'comic-like' meaning it could have been written in a comic book and told through that medium. But the first was too, so why is this all of a sudden something to be alarmed about?

People jumping building to building and fighting super soldier Agents isn't comic-like? But I think the helicopter scene from the first movie blew away anything in the second except those two twins, they were awesome.

Too bad Morpheus cut them off, but oh well. What were their names?

Dolemite: Trinity was always a butterface.

[Despair]

Dont worry, the Twins will be back in Revolutions. That's another thing that bugged me about Reloaded, almost every player who appeared in the film will be back in Part 3, thus killing any suspense that ANYTHING can actually happen to them.

[Nash]

Originally posted by Dolemite
And if Zion is actually another part of the Matrix that'll be a great mind-fuck.

no, that would be very stupid.

[Dolemite]

Originally posted by Andrew
Dolemite: Trinity was always a butterface.

Yeah, but now she's REALLY a butterface! He body was good enough in the first movie that you didn't mind her face (like I said, she was kinda cute), but a few years later and that face just totally turned to shit. Neo has to choose the two doors, one to save humanity and one to save Trinity, and I'm thinking that's an easy choice, let the ulgy bitch fall.

Originally posted by Nash
no, that would be very stupid.

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll do the Hollywood thing and not let that happen. Zion will be real, more than likely.

[Despair]

At the end you will see Neo wake up, and it was ALL just a Dream. WHOA DUDE!!!!

[Regus]

Originally posted by Despair
Dont worry, the Twins will be back in Revolutions. That's another thing that bugged me about Reloaded, almost every player who appeared in the film will be back in Part 3, thus killing any suspense that ANYTHING can actually happen to them.

1. How do you know this?
2. Why did you spoil REVOLUTIONS in the RELOADED thread?

[Despair]

Well, For twins look in the cast list and see them there. Plus, what exactly is the Spoiler in my post that havent been said before again and again in this thread?