Beyond Good & Evil - Official Thread

[Mzo]

Off-topic, but I don't think you gave PoP enough of a chance... the controls are really the best part!

Here's an excerpt from when AFX jizzed all over it:

When I say this game is perfect, I am saying it with the conviction of a man who has found his salvation. I'm usually a pretty harsh critic, but nothing about POP feels wrong to me. So many games have had you running on walls, and almost as many have had you swinging on ropes and wall-jumping and climbing poles, but none have ever done it and made it feel so, so right. Every single button command is executed so well that the weakminded might be frightened into thinking that the game knows what he wants to do before he does. Every time you need to make that precise jump, the control is there, and every time you need to run along the wall just underneath a moving saw blade, the control is there. Consequently, every mistake you make is yours, so there's no blaming the game or the controller this time, you pansy. The mechanics are flawless to the point where nothing is ever a chore, no matter how many unbelievable stunts the world might throw at you. That's also a lot of what makes the game so rewarding. After many of the bigger battles or trying stunts, you're shown a montage of the challenges that await you, in a sort of flash forward. Each time, they look to be so difficult that it'll make you wonder just how in the hell you'll ever manage to do that. However, you'll manage, and it'll make you feel like you're actually good at something for once.

I think most share in his sentiments.

So, I'll use that to back up my statement that:

It's not... it's just something I've never heard before, and I might never hear again. I want to cherish this unique literary treasure for a bit longer.

Which is in regard to your opinion that the controls in PoP are unintuitive.

[RedCoKid]

That's a fine block of the TOS... too bad Mzo isn't violating any part of it.

He's trying to be subtle about it, but sigging something someone has said is a juvenile attempt to belittle and attack that person. He's done it before and he's trying to get away with it again. He likes to poke fun at me for games I can't win.


And as long as we're talking about PoP, why won't anyone explain how to run on the walls? Maybe if I knew I would change my mind.

[Mzo]

He likes to poke fun at me for games I can't win.

I do it out of love.

why won't anyone explain how to run on the walls?

Um, on the Xbox and GC it was the right trigger. So probably R1 or R2 on the PS2 controller. If you're close to the wall, he'll do it, either straight up or across it, depending on how you approach the wall before pressing the button.

But it is a damn shame that BG&E has dropped in price so damn quick. It's an excellent game I constantly push at the store, but I fear it's been eclipsed by some other, more well-known franchises.

Most people look at the box, see the graphical style and automatically write it off. Then they buy Enter The Matrix.

[Bacon McShig]

But it is a damn shame that BG&E has dropped in price so damn quick.

For UbiSoft's bottom line, yes.

For me & my wallet, no.

[Mzo]

Still sucks for me, I want the Xbox version (which is still $40.00).

I don't want to pay $40 when the PS2 one is $10!! WTF?

[Korly]

I got the GC version for $19.99 at EB.

[Mzo]

XBOX!!

I don't feel like pressing Z everytime I want to take a picture.

[Will]

Although BG&E was featured in many gaming mag ads leading up to the holidays, it was not promoted or hyped by gaming critics as much as lesser quality games such as PoP, FFX-2, Zelda WW, Viewtiful Joe, etc. Take a look at various GOTY lists, and you'll see what I mean.

Lesser quality? I could understand not liking Zelda for it's formula, you gotta be crazy to hate on VJ.

[Dyne]

ive read at the anandtech boards that all 3 versions are $19.99 or less along with a lot of other games (fzero x).

[dog$]

F Zero GX for $20? Where??

By the way I'd like to thank this thread for saving me from purchasing the game. All the hype that I saw this game getting at GAF and other places made me think I was missing out on something...