Strom Thurmond Dead at 100

[Zerodash]

Originally posted by Saint of Killers
Good. Fuck that old, racist asshole.

Yes. Even though I follow an ethos of open-mindedness and acceptance of others and their opinions, I still am a hypocrite.

[sleeve]

Originally posted by frostwolf ex
sleeve,do you actually have something to say on the subject,or are you just being sleeveboy.

Both.

he seemed to lack a strong feeling one way or the other

He felt strongly enough about the issue of segregation to set the current Senate record for a solo filibuster, at approximately 24 hours, during deliberations for the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

(He was against it.)

he was a segregationist and a democrat when the south was predominantly democrat and segregationist. then he switched parties and mindsets with the political tides.

What awe-inspiring leadership.

[Schlep]

He grew up in a different time with completely different views than what we have today. I mean, he was born 37 years after the Civil War...crazy. His service to his country through military and senate are commendable, imo.

[Saint of Killers]

Originally posted by frostwolf ex
the funny thing is, i thought this too, but cnn was saying that toward the end of his career, he reversed his position and became very pro intigration,cnn said he was the first congressman to have a african american aide. so perhaps we all should know more before saying this.

Holy shit, a lifelong politician changed his views once they became political suicide? I take back what I said. Clearly, the man had a heart of pure gold and obviously strongly believed in the cause of civil rights long after they were enacted.

Originally posted by Zerodash
Yes. Even though I follow an ethos of open-mindedness and acceptance of others and their opinions, I still am a hypocrite.

I can't be sure, but if you're attempting to give me shit, I don't remember ever claiming to follow an ethos of open-mindedness and acceptance of others and their opinions, especially when those opinions are racist.

Originally posted by Schlep
He grew up in a different time with completely different views than what we have today. I mean, he was born 37 years after the Civil War...crazy.

Of course. No one who lived a hundred years ago gave a damn about them backwards negroes and their plight.

Hitler was just a man of his times too, you know. No reason to vilify him. Hating Jews was perfectly acceptable in civilized society when he was born.

[Joust Williams]

"Hating Jews was perfectly acceptable in civilized society when he was born."

But killing them wasn't. And Jews were strongly disliked pretty much everywhere even when he did take over Germany. The guy has a point, whether you strongly disagree with it or not. Not saying that Strom was a good guy, but the comparison is overblown.

[Saint of Killers]

Originally posted by BoBVila
"Hating Jews was perfectly acceptable in civilized society when he was born."

But killing them wasn't. And Jews were strongly disliked pretty much everywhere even when he did take over Germany. The guy has a point, whether you strongly disagree with it or not.

It's a shitty point. Enough of his fellow senators in 1964 voted for the Civil Rights act that it passed, and he certainly wasn't the oldest member of the Senate back then. And he wasn't just "going along with the crowd" as his supporters claim. As sleeveboy pointed out, he led a filibuster against the act by speaking for 24 hours straight.

Not saying that Strom was a good guy, but the comparison is overblown.

No shit.

[Joust Williams]

"And he wasn't just "going along with the crowd" as his supporters claim"

No one said he did.

[Saint of Killers]

frostwolf did.

[Joust Williams]

No, you said that he did

him:"the funny thing is, i thought this too, but cnn was saying that toward the end of his career, he reversed his position and became very pro intigration,cnn said he was the first congressman to have a african american aide. so perhaps we all should know more before saying this"


you: "Holy shit, a lifelong politician changed his views once they became political suicide?"

He'd have been elected anyway.

[Saint of Killers]

Originally posted by frostwolf ex
he seemed to lack a strong feeling one way or the other,he was a segregationist and a democrat when the south was predominantly democrat and segregationist. then he switched parties and mindsets with the political tides.

Apparently you missed that post.