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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Almaci
    Markets are emotion driven as much as driven by more tangeable things.
    Look at the tech bubble where worthless companies were blown up to gargantuan proportions, now couple that market system with a government who uses a silly colour coding system to put its people into a frenzy and you have all the ingredients for a circlejerk that will make markets explode into a trading frenzy.
    idiocy at its finest.
    So you went into a big elaborate tirade to say what? Exactly what you said before - nothing but being vague. But this time, yer being fancy about it.

    Government highers the terorism alert level so markets react, government sees market reaction and claims something is definitly up so they higher the alert level some more, markets go crazy.
    Insanity, only absolute idiots would think something like this would work.

    Tech bubble people, tech bubble.
    Dont buy into Stone his market crap, the tech bubble has already proven him wrong.
    I may be misunderstanding Stone, but from what he's saying, a 'terror alert' would have minimal, if any impact on this 'market.' Because in a real market, insider info is always more valuable than a corporate-tightened press junket. Not to mention insider info that pans out is moreso effective, and truth in the numbers about who's making what is always better than a tanking company going 'no really, everything's fine'

    At least, in my limited understanding of the market, that's how things work. Or at least, that should be the angle of attack and demeanor to be most successful in it. So if in a 'terror' market (which still boggles me - but I'm actually trying to talk about this, not just verbally dickslap it because someone I (you) don't like is talking about something I don't find very uplifting), it should be the same. Sure, you might a have a frenzy by 'investors' who don't know better on an alert, but if it's like out normal markets, people are in the business of keeping a level head and following the real trends....which would show themselves through insider info. That's why Stone was saying this whole thing would work better than a single intelligence agency, afterall.

    So why the hell do you assume he OBVIOUSLY doesn't understand that the big-bad-Wolf-USA will be able to control the ENTIRE market? He already said they wouldn't. That's like saying Martha Stewart could save her company by just saying everything's cool, even though EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE MARKET says she's up a creek.

    That's what I can dig from this. I still don't like the idea of being able to keep tabs this way, no matter how effective, just because it's a larger indicator that greed can still motivate moreso than for the sake of helping. And not JUST the white-capitalist-fatcats, you fools. Greed pretty much works everywhere in everyone; be it financial, materialistic, emotional, or psychological. At the very least, while greed exists, the best one can do is manipulate it to do good.
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  2. Wow, some people need to maybe read less and get out more before they "debate" politics. Common sense is with Almaci to be sure.

    AND HOOFUCKINGRAY if Poindexter resigned! I haven't the time to check any newssources to verify, but I'm quite pleased at the thought.

    Pa

  3. His resignation is "rumoured" to be coming. We can only hope. I kinda doubt TIA will go away even if he leaves though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hero
    I still don't like the idea of being able to keep tabs this way, no matter how effective, just because it's a larger indicator that greed can still motivate moreso than for the sake of helping.
    I concur. That's why this turns my stomach. I'm trying to figure out if I would feel better if this came out years after they had been doing it (let's assume with success), or the way we found out recently (before it really got started).
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Almaci
    Thats one down and the rest of the Bush cabinet to go.
    Hehehe. Figures you'd say that. Don't worry Ali, I'll still be voting for him with the hope of keeping ya agitated/aggravated for another 4 long grueling years ...
    "Don't be a pansy." - James

  5. Look - I don't even believe in strong market efficiency. What matters is that this is/was an interesting idea that demonstrated some interesting concepts, and most of the public had their heads too far up the asses to think the damn thing for a half-second before dismissing it.

    It doesn't have anything to do with greed, either - it's simply human nature. We wouldn't have been giving terrorists a way to capitalize on...bah, fuck, it's not worth it.

  6. Of course its noth worth it.
    A retarded plan conceived by an admited criminal with blood on his hands who gets payed by those whose names he didnt mention to spy on you.
    Yup not worth it.

    Oh and Hero, once again youre reading things I have not written, nowehere did I say the US would have full control over it or whatever.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Stone
    Look - I don't even believe in strong market efficiency. What matters is that this is/was an interesting idea that demonstrated some interesting concepts, and most of the public had their heads too far up the asses to think the damn thing for a half-second before dismissing it.

    It doesn't have anything to do with greed, either - it's simply human nature. We wouldn't have been giving terrorists a way to capitalize on...bah, fuck, it's not worth it.
    Getting Poindexter to resign is worth the death of what may or may not be a good idea.

    The main problem with this thing is no one understands it. While it may be a good idea in concept, it's not something they should publicize. I don't even want to think about the impact of a continued program like this on international relations.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Lhadatt
    Getting Poindexter to resign is worth the death of what may or may not be a good idea.
    Agreed. I think this whole scandal is really more about kicking Poindexter out of Defense than the merits of the terror market idea.

    I just hope DARPA doesn't suffer or get killed outright because of this, because it's an important program. Besides, they gave us Metal Gear!
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  9. DARPA isn't Poindexter. They were around when he was still climbing the military ranks.

    They're the ones who invented Teh Intarweb, after all.

  10. I am aware of that. But I understood DARPA had some involvement with this project.
    The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure it is always right. -Learned Hand

    "Jesus christ you are still THE WORST." -FirstBlood

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