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  1. Quote Originally Posted by kingoffighters View Post
    I am rereading Reaper's Gale (forgotten the epic arc of Karsa and Icarium), then moving onto Toll and Dust before hitting Crippled God. What an amazing series.
    Is it really so good? Better than X, worse than Y, pls. I'm interested. I like the idea of a 10-novel fantasy epic worth reading (i.e. not Wheel of Time).

  2. Quote Originally Posted by Compass View Post
    Is it really so good? Better than X, worse than Y, pls. I'm interested. I like the idea of a 10-novel fantasy epic worth reading (i.e. not Wheel of Time).
    It is hard for me to judge. I used to think GRRM's A Song of Ice and Fire is the high mark in current fantasy series, but Feast for Crows has soured the series and the ridiculously long time it takes for him to put out Dance has me not caring. Maybe when he is 100 and finish the series, I would go back to it.

    A Tale of Malazan is really really ambitious in both scope and story telling. Erikson drops you basically in the middle of the story and doesn't tell you shit. In fact, the magic system was not even explained until book 5 (I think), basically 4000+ pages in. By that time, you have an understanding of how it generally works anyway. Erikson doesn't like to pander to the reader, so he doesn't bother to explain much. There are all different types of races in his world, and they are not stereotypical elves/dwarves/trolls/goblins/etc. They are entirely different and some are like transformers in that they can turn into beast/insects and such. It reads kinda like Greek mythology in that gods and humans mingle together, and humans can ascend into god hood.

    With so many characters, I am impressed that he can juggle them and ties them all together in the final book. For instance, after book 3 (Memories of Ice), you don't get the continuation of that arc until book 8. I had to go back and reread them just to remember what happened. That can be very annoying as it is not a straightforward narrative. If that bothers you, I would not recommend that. Also, another common complaint is many of the characters (evenly lowly foot soldiers/cannon fodders) would break out in deeply philosophical discussions ranging fromon religion, war, human condition, etc and it can be slow to get through. This is especially annoying toward the later books whereas, the first 3/4 books are much more straightforward.

    Some better editing would have been beneficial in cutting down maybe 25% of the book without losing much IMO.

    So while the series is not flawless by any means, it is still tremendous in its epic scope and a fantastic cast of characters. There are so many memorable characters and scenes, I can name like 20 of them without much deliberation. It does get confusing at times though (especially some of the human/Malazan empire's legendary Bridgeburners). Some of the battles were insane, I love rereading the build up and resolutions on most of these. Apparently, it gets even better (as Sedition confirmed) in the last book, with one epic showdown after another.

    So how would I rank this against Wheel of Time or ASOIAF? I like this better because WoT was pretty boring after the 3rd and 4th book and I hate most of the characters. A Storm of Swords is probably the best book out of those 3 series, but Feast was complete shit and drags down the entire series quite a bit. Plus, I have no faith that GRRM would ever live to finish it, so Erikson manages to write 10 books in as many years is just impressive. You can't compare this to Lord of the Rings and such, as that is the father of all fantasy and really nothing touches it on so many levels. But for modern fantasy, it is pretty close to the top if you can deal with the faults I mentioned above (and not everyone can). Sedition can probably give you better comparisons. I have read some of Terry Goodkind/Brooks, etc and find them to be complete shit. Feist is okay, but uneven. I have not read Donaldson yet. Have you ever read Glenn Cook's Black Company chronicles? It is similar in tone to that but BCC is much smaller in scope.

    I also like Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller Chronicle (The Name of the Wind was excellent, and the sequel, The Wise Men's Fears just came out a few weeks ago which I have not read). It is good stuff. Brandon Sanderson also began a 10 book series with The Way of Kings, and to my surprise, it was very good. But it is too early to tell if he can sustain it through 10 books, but at least it is a good start.
    Last edited by kingoffighters; 18 Mar 2011 at 02:03 AM.

  3. One more note, even though the story arc concludes in The Crippled God, many of the characters live on and their story will continue. I think Erikson signed a 6 book deal already for that, and I am not sure if that includes prequels as well. His friend who started the whole Malazan empire, Ian Esslemont, also wrote 3 books within the universe. I read two of them and they are pretty decent as well. Basically, you won't run of books to read any time soon.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by kingoffighters View Post
    It is hard for me to judge. I used to think GRRM's A Song of Ice and Fire is the high mark in current fantasy series, but Feast for Crows has soured the series and the ridiculously long time it takes for him to put out Dance has me not caring. Maybe when he is 100 and finish the series, I would go back to it.

    A Tale of Malazan is really really ambitious in both scope and story telling. Erikson drops you basically in the middle of the story and doesn't tell you shit. In fact, the magic system was not even explained until book 5 (I think), basically 4000+ pages in. By that time, you have an understanding of how it generally works anyway. Erikson doesn't like to pander to the reader, so he doesn't bother to explain much. There are all different types of races in his world, and they are not stereotypical elves/dwarves/trolls/goblins/etc. They are entirely different and some are like transformers in that they can turn into beast/insects and such. It reads kinda like Greek mythology in that gods and humans mingle together, and humans can ascend into god hood.

    With so many characters, I am impressed that he can juggle them and ties them all together in the final book. For instance, after book 3 (Memories of Ice), you don't get the continuation of that arc until book 8. I had to go back and reread them just to remember what happened. That can be very annoying as it is not a straightforward narrative. If that bothers you, I would not recommend that. Also, another common complaint is many of the characters (evenly lowly foot soldiers/cannon fodders) would break out in deeply philosophical discussions ranging fromon religion, war, human condition, etc and it can be slow to get through. This is especially annoying toward the later books whereas, the first 3/4 books are much more straightforward.

    Some better editing would have been beneficial in cutting down maybe 25% of the book without losing much IMO.

    So while the series is not flawless by any means, it is still tremendous in its epic scope and a fantastic cast of characters. There are so many memorable characters and scenes, I can name like 20 of them without much deliberation. It does get confusing at times though (especially some of the human/Malazan empire's legendary Bridgeburners). Some of the battles were insane, I love rereading the build up and resolutions on most of these. Apparently, it gets even better (as Sedition confirmed) in the last book, with one epic showdown after another.

    So how would I rank this against Wheel of Time or ASOIAF? I like this better because WoT was pretty boring after the 3rd and 4th book and I hate most of the characters. A Storm of Swords is probably the best book out of those 3 series, but Feast was complete shit and drags down the entire series quite a bit. Plus, I have no faith that GRRM would ever live to finish it, so Erikson manages to write 10 books in as many years is just impressive. You can't compare this to Lord of the Rings and such, as that is the father of all fantasy and really nothing touches it on so many levels. But for modern fantasy, it is pretty close to the top if you can deal with the faults I mentioned above (and not everyone can). Sedition can probably give you better comparisons. I have read some of Terry Goodkind/Brooks, etc and find them to be complete shit. Feist is okay, but uneven. I have not read Donaldson yet. Have you ever read Glenn Cook's Black Company chronicles? It is similar in tone to that but BCC is much smaller in scope.

    I also like Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller Chronicle (The Name of the Wind was excellent, and the sequel, The Wise Men's Fears just came out a few weeks ago which I have not read). It is good stuff. Brandon Sanderson also began a 10 book series with The Way of Kings, and to my surprise, it was very good. But it is too early to tell if he can sustain it through 10 books, but at least it is a good start.
    k.

  5. Nah, just kidding. Thanks for the detailed write-up. I do believe I will check at least the first book out.

    And man, you really hated Feast..., huh. I've been putting that off and now I'm as apprehensive as ever.

  6. I hated Feast because the POVs were all the ones I couldn't care less, and after Storm, I had probably unreasonably high expectation. It is such a let down. I am setting your expectation so low, you will probably like it

    For Erikson, I suggest sticking with it for 2 books. Most critics think the 2nd and 3rd book are the best of the series (without taken into account the last book).

    Feast is like Crossroad of Twilight (10 of WoT). They can both be forgotten and the series would be stronger because of it.

  7. Heh, I never got that far in WoT. I stopped at like book six or seven. I'm pretty sure Rand had been hanging out in the desert not doing shit for several thousand pages by then and I simply couldn't take it anymore.

    Most of the potential pitfalls you describe in the Malazan books I don't see myself being bothered by. So yeah, I'll definitely read the first and unless it's the worst thing ever, shoot for the second as well.

    Regarding Feast...'s new PoVs: In Storm..., I was stoked when he killed off a few characters as I felt there were already too many PoVs. Then I found out there would be new ones to replace those and ugh, wasn't happy about that. It's sucky enough when you have to go hundreds of pages between Tyrion chapters. I realize it makes the series somewhat unique, but I don't really care for the PoV system. It only guarantees you'll be wrenched away from whatever part of the story you've become invested in at the end of every single chapter.

  8. I don't mind the POVs, it is different and moves the story along on different paths. I can't remember a single thing about Feast, and that's really saying something. I have no desire to ever reread it (even with Dance), I think I will reread 2 and 3, then skip to 5 if I ever pick it up.

    I think you will like Erikson. Book 1 would be like WTF did I just read, then read book 2 and 3 will start to get really good, and you will reread 1 and say, ah, that's pretty decent now that I know what's going on. This is especially true as you get deeper and deeper.

  9. Hey that book is Canadian. I remember people at a library book signing talking about it. Not my cup of tea, though.

    I'm finished Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency. I highly recommend this book. Very fun. Especially if you like stuff like The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe. There are 2 other books starring Dirk Gently I will have to pick up. I can start ramping up my reading on Dorian Gray now that I have that one out of the way. Afterwards I'll start rereading 1984 because I can't get enough of that amazing book.

    When do you people read the most? I usually read before I go to bed at night (either read or listen to music). I've started a policy of reading at least one page a day. When I read 1 page I usually end up reading 10, 20, or even more.
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    Once, a gang of fat girls threatened to beat me up for not cottoning to their advances. As they explained it to me: "guys can usually beat up girls, but we are all fat, and there are a lot of us."

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    I read before bed, and for about an hour in the mornings before I go to work.

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