Futureshop: Buy 1, get 11 free

[DHG Otaku]

Uh...how is a store's mistake making him a thief? Who the hell says he has to give it back if it's THEIR fuck up? It's up to them to contact him about the mistake. Otherwise, he has absolutely no moral obligation to return said package because of merchant stupid dumb ass fuck up.

[ferricide]

anyone who feels strongly about this should just forward this thread link to futureshop. =)

tee-hee.

[Despair]

Run Fast

Man, Unless they catch up on the error, keep the extra copies that you got for yourself. As it was said before, it was their mistake.

[Hero]

People should be responsible enough to keep track of what they're selling and what they're shipping out. If they don't pay attention enough to notice eleven extra copies sent out, well, that's not the customer's problem.

It's their mistake, their problem. It's not my job to watch out for them.

True, but I'd like to think people are better than that. Damn, can't someone do something they're not obligated to just because it's a nice thing to do?

[Blaine]

I don't know Futureshop. I'm not sure who or what they are, but if this happened to me with NCSX or even VGD (to a lesser degree), I'd let them know.

The reason beside being honest or not is... I hate buying games at Best Buy. I don't like buying them at Circuit City, Toys R Us or even GameStop.

And if smaller boutique type shops don't get support, in a few years that'll be the only options.

Maybe it's elitest. I don't know, but an independant game store is just a better environment. You actually get intellegent input from the staff, they really do do requests for games they don't stock and most of the time they'll go out of thier way to cater to your needs.

That's why I'd send them back. Because I shudder at a world where every game I buy comes from Amazon or a department store.

(I do buy games there, sometimes it's just unavoidable, but if I can, I will order from NCSX or VGD).

[BioMechanic]

Uh...how is a store's mistake making him a thief? Who the hell says he has to give it back if it's THEIR fuck up? It's up to them to contact him about the mistake. Otherwise, he has absolutely no moral obligation to return said package because of merchant stupid dumb ass fuck up.

I look at it this way - the store obviously made a mistake. It's not like they intended to ship the extra copies. He has eleven copies of a game that he didn't pay for, error or not, and if he makes the willfull decision to keep them, I think it's definitely theft. Selling them to line his own pockets would be even worse. He doesn't have to keep them, and shouldn't because they don't belong to him. I don't think the fact that the store made a mistake makes it permissible - the store may not even be aware that the mistake has been made.

Besides, if he returns them, or at the very least contacts them about it, the store may even compensate him in some way for being honest about it.

[Spent]

I don't know Futureshop. I'm not sure who or what they are, but if this happened to me with NCSX or even VGD (to a lesser degree), I'd let them know.

The reason beside being honest or not is... I hate buying games at Best Buy. I don't like buying them at Circuit City, Toys R Us or even GameStop.

And if smaller boutique type shops don't get support, in a few years that'll be the only options.

Maybe it's elitest. I don't know, but an independant game store is just a better environment. You actually get intellegent input from the staff, they really do do requests for games they don't stock and most of the time they'll go out of thier way to cater to your needs.

That's why I'd send them back. Because I shudder at a world where every game I buy comes from Amazon or a department store.

(I do buy games there, sometimes it's just unavoidable, but if I can, I will order from NCSX or VGD).

Futureshop is the canadian equivalent of Besbuy.... Now wait, scratch that, Best Buy bought them out. Fuck best buy, sell the copies

[MVS]

I've never met anyone like that.

I guess you have now.

Every month or so, when I go to buy smokes and red bull, the guy at the gas station forgets to add something in. I'll tell him and pay for it, I don't want anything that I'm not paying for.

Some places pick up on that, and are cool. The Korean liquor store in Hollywood where I lived, they shorted themselves a few times, and I told them when they did it.

Later on, when I only had money for smokes, the owner would give me a few red bulls and tell me to pay later.

What goe around, comes around.

Uh...how is a store's mistake making him a thief? Who the hell says he has to give it back if it's THEIR fuck up? It's up to them to contact him about the mistake. Otherwise, he has absolutely no moral obligation to return said package because of merchant stupid dumb ass fuck up.

I would never say theif.

It's his decision to make. Personally, people have helped me or been honest when I have fucked up, so I continue the cycle.

To each his own.

[Brisco Bold]

All of you who think he should send it back... say you went to an ATM to withdraw $100 from your account.

$1200 comes out. A quick check of your balance reveles that only the $100 you requested came out of your account.

What do you do?

In that case I'd give it back.

Yeah, I'm a pussy. Do something about it.

[stormy]

if it were a large corperation i'd keep it, since it's a small business i'd send it back

[OGcritic]

Stormy:

Futureshop is the canadian equivalent of Besbuy.... Now wait, scratch that, Best Buy bought them out. Fuck best buy, sell the copies

[stormy]

then keep it. BB screws people all the time. Just wait a month to make sure they don't catch the error

[MVS]

Someone should call the company, and tell them to look at recent shipments and sales of SC2 for PS2.

[Tragic]

i cancelled a $5 preorder for f-zero gx (i bought it elsewhere,) but the guy gave me back $50. i didn't realize until i walked out of the store, but i still brought it back. stupid? maybe, but i felt bad.. especially considering that i've been shopping there for years.

that said, keeping the sc2s is tacky, even if it's your right.

I agree, especially about your scenario with keeping the $50. In fact, I can't underestand how anyone who has worked a chasier job in their life wouldn't return the money. You can get in a lot of trouble if your drawer in short at the end of the night.

[Timber]

If you're going to keep them don't sell 'em. Just return one at a time to stores that take back sealed games for store credit. That's 11 diffrent games for ya.

I'd wait 2 weeks and then e-mail them saying I got 8 extra copys. I'm a theif but I'm not that greedy.

oh, and I wouldn't have posted it here with pics. I don't trust a lot of people here.

[Andy]

Well... I won a copy of Plasma Sword for DC and a little metal sword/mail opener from Incitegames.com a long time ago. I win.

[NoFace]

It's their mistake, their problem. It's not my job to watch out for them.

True, but I'd like to think people are better than that. Damn, can't someone do something they're not obligated to just because it's a nice thing to do?

Sure. When I see corporate America truely giving a damn about us consumers, and not the almighty dollar, then I (and others) might reciprocate such gestures.

Till then, it's a rough capitalist society we live in. Personal gain is what it's all about most of the time sadly.

Someone should call the company, and tell them to look at recent shipments and sales of SC2 for PS2.

They should also call this guy's Mom and tell him how dishonest he's being while they're at it.

[Gymkata]

If It were me, Id take them back after a couple of days.
Then again you could allways haul ass to the border and hide from teh fuzz

[mollipen]

If they sent you a single copy Mortal Kombat instead of a single copy of Soul Calibur, you wouldn't take any action, since it was their fault, right?

Probably one of the best posts in this thread.

Uh...how is a store's mistake making him a thief? Who the hell says he has to give it back if it's THEIR fuck up? It's up to them to contact him about the mistake. Otherwise, he has absolutely no moral obligation to return said package because of merchant stupid dumb ass fuck up.

Okay, first, by the technical definition of "thief," no, he is not one. I still consider him one, and am using it because I'd rather not just call him an asshole.

And second, how can you sit there and honestly say he has NO moral obligation? Maybe you need to brush up on your morals. He is in posession of goods that he did not rightfully obtain due to a mistake. For whatever reason, he was accidentally sent twelve copies of the game instead of one. He has no moral claim to those twelve copies. What a MORAL person would do is contact the company and, on their dime, ship them back the extra eleven copies. This isn't about "screwing the man." Just because "the man" is a fuck doesn't make it right for you to be one in return.

I honestly can't believe some of you in here are so pathetic that you would actually think keeping the games is okay. I also can't believe that the top person that I am in agreement in this thread is Matt. *heh* I think that means the world is going to end or something.

[NoFace]

Of couse you would take action if they fucked up your order, one way or the other. That's your right as a consumer. Just as it's their right to catch their mistake and request the 11 extra copies back. It's a two way street, but both parties have to be responsible enough to catch either their mistakes or mistakes made by the other party that adversely affect them.

[mollipen]

Of couse you would take action if they fucked up your order, one way or the other. That's your right as a consumer. Just as it's their right to catch their mistake and request the 11 extra copies back. It's a two way street, but both parties have to be responsible enough to catch either their mistakes or mistakes made by the other party that adversely affect them.

This isn't like getting onion rings instead of fries, or a soft drink when you didn't order one at your local fast food joint. This is a rather large and costly mistake, one that could end up costing somebody their job. Receiving roughly $550 of merchandise that you didn't pay for (if they didn't catch this and charge him) is not something you just shrug off and say, "Whoops, their screw up."

[NoFace]

It is totally dishonest. I've said that from the start. But it's easy to sit back and point fingers and say "That's bad!", but to actually be in a situation like that, of seemingly good fortune, and say "Well, better give this $1000 worth of merchandise back, because someone who doesn't know how to do their job might lose that job!".

He could just as easily give that back to them, and the executives at this company could very well fire the person who prepared his order for making such a huge fuck-up. That's just as likely as any other scenario we can propose for this issue.

And for the record, what happened with epmode and the $5 preorder, I would do the same thing. When you're dealing with people in the flesh, it puts a more personal perspective on things. I don't want to see the manager at my local game store (who might be a cool guy/girl) lose their job for my own self-serving interests. But when it's ebgames.com or amazon.com or whatever, it's a lot easier to not feel remorse for being shiesty and making a quick buck. Is it justified or right because of that? Hell no it's not. But, chances are, most people feel that way.

[Jeremy]

I recommend contacting them, informing them of their error, and seeing what they say. Maybe they'll let you keep a copy or two, in which case, you'll still get more than you paid for, and a clear consience to boot.

[mollipen]

But, my point still stands - try to make excuses for it all you want, it's still the wrong thing to do. And you either do the right thing, or you're an ass. This isn't a Robin Hood situation where you could justify doing something wrong.

And if we're willing to say, "Yeah, it's wrong, oh well," then we might as well just say "fuck it" to everything in the world and let all things go to hell.

[Captain Vegetable]

Shidoshi, you consistently amaze me. I am proud to anounce that I agree with you 100% for the very first time.

[NoFace]

I don't think anyone was telling you it's the right thing to do. If anything I was trying to justify why most people would probably want to keep them. Not everyone has a comfortable enough life to always live morally unforunately, so personal gain many times takes priority.

[Captain Vegetable]

. . . so personal gain many times takes priority.

Personal gain should always take priority, so long as you're doing what's in your true self interest.

Stealing is never in anyone's true self interest.

Therefore, stealing isn't proper personal gain. Nor is it in his true self interest to keep them.

[NoFace]

I thought we established that this isn't theft? He paid $50, requested one copy, they sent him twelve.

The personal gain in this case would be him profiting from the company's mistake. At no point did a theft take place in this incident. But I certainly agree with you regarding stealing, despite whether this incident can be considered theft or not.

Time to get back to philosophy homework, although this is pretty helpful

[Captain Vegetable]

I thought we established that this isn't theft? He paid $50, requested one copy, they sent him twelve.

So, he took something he didn't pay for and it isn't theft?

Reguardless of whether or not he took a proactive approach in appropreating these items, the simple act of not returning something he didn't rightly pay for is theft.

Consult the law books of any state and you'll find he's liable for theft.

The personal gain in this case would be him profiting from the company's mistake. At no point did a theft take place in this incident. But I certainly agree with you regarding stealing, despite whether this incident can be considered theft or not.

The theft took place when he decided not to return the items he didn't pay for.

Rest assured, this can be considered theft.

Time to get back to philosophy homework, although this is pretty helpful

Business Ethics, my friend.

[Error]

Return the games. Don't be a shithead. Or if you intend to be a shithead, move to a country where people like that are encouraged. Like Botswana.