Sega Finally Turning It Around Financially?

[mrdandy]

Y'know, Sega could've made a bit from Virtua Fighter... How much did it cost to bump up VF4 to VF4:Evo?? Surely they've saved a few bucks.

Then there's the endless Sonic Adventure ports (DX, Battle, GBA etc). I remember some of 'em reaching 200-300 thou so even if one is not a million seller, but add them up....

Also, I hear their 'Soccer Card' arcade game they made back home really took off. It's like a Pokemon card game for Soccer nuts. Could someone verify this for me ?

[Diff-chan]

Eh, the only system I feel burned over is the 32X. All the others had enough good stuff to justify the system's cost. I have more DC games than I have for any other system (except the PC).

Yea, but thats YOU. As for me, Im fucking pissed off that I spent $200 on a Dreamcast only to have no new games released for it a year and a half later, then I needed to get a $300 PS2. That type of shit pisses me off man, big time, BIG TIME, and from working at EB, I know Im not the only one. A lot of people were very angry about that, and they were very angry at Sega.

I was also pissed that they were hyping up that SegaNet to be the be-all end-all, the thing that sets it apart from PS2, etc., but it turned out to be the worst gaming service Ive ever used in my entire life, and Ive used both TEN and MPlayer. Absolute total garbage.

People want to play their systems and buy new games for them for as long as possible... buying into the "new Sega" bullshit and then getting screwed over just as before (no, it was worse than before - Saturn was around longer than Dreamcast) is very, very annoying and pisses off a lot of customers.

[gamevet]

I could see Sega making these profits from software. In Japan they were tied for #4 publisher with 7 titles in the top 100 for the year.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/Chart-BestSell2003.htm

[AstroBlue]

In my honest opinion, most of Sega's problems came from the transitional age between 16 and 32 bits. Sega were too busy trying to release the "new big thing"... and in turn they released too many "new big things" and they were spread out WAY too thin. If they just focused on developing the Sega Saturn to be the best/cheapest system they could make, they wouldn't of lost their user base. Also, there was too much rivalrly between SoJ and SoA.... Sega was like a confused two headed dragon that kept attacking itself.

Anyway, regarding Beta 7. I've checked the domain registration and it looks VERY suss to me.

Registrant:
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15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
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Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

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Technical Contact:
Private, Registration BETA-7.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
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15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
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United States
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Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.DATAPIPE.NET
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Check out Domains by Proxy and read their by-line..... dodgy..... shady stuff Sega! Bad Sega!

[Captain Vegetable]

I'm not being a tool, Scourge. I'm simply bringing to light what you all seem to want to keep in the dark.

You're all acting like it's a good thing that Sega has sold off an asset. "What the . . . OH! Sega just got rid of a development house. That explains the super unexpected revenues in this quarter. Everything must be OK then."

That's the wrong way to go about looking at this situation, but it seems as though that's how it's being taken.

Also, I'm not being a tool in the reguard that I want Sega to fail, because I don't want them to fail. I love Sega, and I love Sega games. I hope they're able to finally clear the black, long-term style, in the near future. I'm not doomsaying at all, so please don't think I am. I'm simply pointing out the regretable reality of the situation.

[stormy]

they have to do that or teh evil forces will find them!! OH NO BETA 7 IZ M1SS1NG!!!!!11

[Scourge]

I'm not being a tool, Scourge. I'm simply bringing to light what you all seem to want to keep in the dark.

You're all acting like it's a good thing that Sega has sold off an asset. "What the . . . OH! Sega just got ride of a development house. That explains the super unexpected revenues in this quarter. Everything must be OK then."

That's the wrong way to go about looking at this situation, but it seems as though that's how it's being taken.

Also, I'm not being a tool in the reguard that I want Sega to fail, because I don't want them to fail. I love Sega, and I love Sega games. I hope they're able to finally clear the black, long-term style, in the near future. I'm not doomsaying at all, so please don't think I am. I'm simply pointing out the regretable reality of the situation.

Fair enough. My apologies. I wish people would realize that the Dreamcast failed because the unwashed masses didn't buy it; circular reasoning on the part of the consumer. While some of that was due to Sega CD/32X/Saturn, I don't think that's the main reason the average consumer ignored DC. Sega CD and 32X certainly put people off, and the Saturn wasn't given a fair shake because of them, plus a couple of other reasons, like the difficulty of programming for it and the fact that 3d gaming was rearing it's ugly head and that's where the players coming up were being weened. Saturn didn't cater to those people.

DC was passed on because the average gamer said, "Naw, I'll wait til PlayStation 2" a year before PS2 was to come out in the States. And in Japan, Sega was never that big in home gaming. Their arcade business was what kept them viable there. Genesis wasn't even that big in Japan. I think Sony's hype machine did more to ruin the Dreamcast than anything. It certainly wasn't Sega making a conscious decision to cut short the life of their newest hardware. People who piss and moan about Sega screwing them over with DC should realize that it was the mainstream gamer who screwed them.

Sega certainly made big mistakes with their business. Their balance sheet was never in order because of the Sega CD, 32X and Saturn. They should never have released the DC. Those people who bitch about Sega screwing them over with the DC would have bitched about Sega not releasing new hardware after the Saturn as well. They bitch about everything. They bitch about everything now, even though there's a ton of good stuff out there to play. If they can't find it then they should just stop looking and find another hobby. Unless, of course, their hobby is being a bitch.

Now Sega's a third party and they've put out some really good stuff. Bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch...

[spacecowboy]

People who piss and moan about Sega screwing them over with DC should realize that it was the mainstream gamer who screwed them.

Fair enough. The DC had some amazing games, but when going up against the PS2 you might as well call it quits. I wouldn't be so upset had they at least given the DC a few goodies to go out on. Instead they shifted everything else to other systems. So I am just whining, but that's only because I really wanted to play Shenmue II.

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[gamevet]

Fair enough. The DC had some amazing games, but when going up against the PS2 you might as well call it quits. I wouldn't be so upset had they at least given the DC a few goodies to go out on. Instead they shifted everything else to other systems. So I am just whining, but that's only because I really wanted to play Shenmue II.

SC

It's not like Shenmue 2 was hard to come by. I picked it up at a Gamestop store for $55 and with a Gameshark Lite it worked just fine.

[spacecowboy]

It's not like Shenmue 2 was hard to come by. I picked it up at a Gamestop store for $55 and with a Gameshark Lite it worked just fine.

Yah, I saw the European version, but I don't have a Gameshark and at the time, I didn't have $55. Now I see it at the store for $20 on XBox. Maybe I should just buy it and borrow someone elses XBox.

SC