Dreamcast 2D Hi-Res and Lo-Res

[Josh]

Your first question have no sense.

I believe this news.

Think sexy as hell twice.

I don't understand this news.

[Taito]

...does resolution play a role with HDTVs? I've noticed that DC SFA3 and PS2 KoF 2002 run choppy on HDTVs- possibly due to refresh rates?

3rd Strike runs fine on HD, and I've played SNES games on HD with no problems either.

Which HD are you using? I have a Wega Hi-Scan, and Third Strike is an unwatchable, nearly unplayable eyesore on it. I've been playing Third Strike at the arcades ever since I bought my new TV. The Double Impact games look just fine though (pixelly but clean, unlike Third Strike).

[Mikey]

Updated list:

Low Res Games
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter 3: Third Strike
Street Fighter 3: Double Impact
Gunbird 2
Bangai-O
King of Fighters Dream Match 1999
King of Fighters '99 Evolution
Black Matrix A/D
Marvel vs Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes
Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventure
Twinkle Star Sprites
Last Blade 2: Final Edition

High Res Games
Garou: Mark of the Wolves
King of Fighters 2000
King of Fighters 2001
King of Fighters 2002
Vampire Chronicle for Matching Service
Super Street Fighter 2 X
Mars Matrix
Giga Wing
Yu Suzuki Game Works
Eldorado Gate

Recap, I was debating whether or not to include emulated games, which I think includes Yu Suzuki Game Works. But if you're going to include emulation you'll be including the MegaDrive games you get with the Smash Pack (or whatever) and Midway Arcade Classics and other stuff.

And wasn't Eldorado Gate made for the DC? If that's the case it doesn't belong in either list because the screen resolution is native to DC.

Finally, as to what Icepick said about smaller characters, does anyone know the screen resolution for CPS3? I thought it was 320x240, which should divide nicely into the Dreamcast's 640x480. But Recap said the aspect ratio was different so it's probably not 320x240.

[Recap]

Why not to include emulated games while they're official products? From the user's viewpoint, it is not relevant. Yu Suzuki could have been done in real low-res even if it was still emulation. Don't know what is that Smash Pack and never care about non-Jap games, so it's up to you.

Eldorado Gate was originally designed for the SS, so I suppose the hi-res display was the easiest way to port it to the DC hardware. Anyways, why not to include non-ports? They're still originally designing the graphics at different resolution to the one finally used. It's the same ugly result. CVS 1 & 2 and MVC2 are special cases, though; besides characters' sprites, the whole games are actual hi-res.

CP-S III resolution is not relevant since the pixel's shape of both systems is different. Check system16.com if still want to know it, thoe.

[Mikey]

Eldorado game was originally designed for the SS, so I suppose the hi-res display was the easiest way to port it to the DC hardware. Anyways, why not to include non-ports?

My only concern was to compile a list for games with resolutions lower than 640x480. Whether it's a port or not is irrelevant. It just happens that they're all ports.

[Recap]

Then, what's the problem with Eldorado Gate?

[Mikey]

Is Eldorado Gate not 640x480? I don't actually have it so I don't know.

Also, isn't Princess Maker a port with some low res stuff in it?

[AaronChance]

Is Eldorado Gate not 640x480? I don't actually have it so I don't know.

Also, isn't Princess Maker a port with some low res stuff in it?

Eldorado Gate is definitely chunky 320x240. So is Princess Maker. EG might be upscanned, I don't remember and my copy is in storage. PM is defintely true low rez though... and ugly as hell. Bleh.

I don't understand your list at all though. All of your 'High Res Games' are just upscanned 320x240. They're still blocky as hell, even if they're technically running at 640x480. Though ignore my ramblings if it's better explained elsewhere in the messages I only skimmed.

[Mikey]

Eldorado Gate and Princess Maker will be added.

The point is that they're upscanned and blocky, as you say. They look blurred. The low res ones don't, even though they're no less blocky in reality.

[Recap]

Have Eldorado Gate Nai Ni Kan. It's, as I said, fake low res except in battles, which it's true hi res.

Princess Maker should not be added. As Ammadeau said, it's TRUE hi res.

The hi res list should be renamed to fake low res to avoid confusions, shouldn't it?