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  1. Game Retail Bill Introduced in Congress

    A California congressman seeks to restrict sales to minors.

    Rep. Joe Baca (D-Cal) has introduced a bill, H.R. 4645, that, if passed, will make it a violation of federal law to sell games that include violence or immorality to children under the age of 17. Cosigned by 21 other members of the House, the bill specifically seeks to restricts games that feature explicit in-game depictions of decapitation and dismemberment, murder, carjackings, illegal drug use, rape, prostitution, assualt and other violent crimes. If passed, the law would assess fines on the first two offenses, but also imprisonment for up to 90 days upon the third offense.

    Specifically, the bill seems to target Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto III, the nation's best-selling game from December through March, but one that was initially banned in Australia for its violence. The bill comes on the heels of last week's German school shooting as well as last month's federal court ruling that localities can forbid sales of violent games to minors because video games contain no protectible speech.

    IDSA president Doug Lowenstein, while praising the concerns behind the bill, argued that such a law would be "both unnecessary and unconstitutional" in light of the industry's successful self-regulation. A spokesman for Circuit City Stores, which has a policy of checking identification before sales of M-rated games, said that the ultimate responsibility falls on parents, not retailers.

    Source: CNN.com

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    TheSCHLONG! Guest
    uuuummmmmmmmmmmm.............isnt this what the ratings system is for?

  3. Originally posted by TheSCHLONG!
    uuuummmmmmmmmmmm.............isnt this what the ratings system is for?
    Kinda. The ratings are a self-imposed restriction by the game industry, sort of like MPAA ratings for movies. Also, it isn't a crime for retailers to ignore ratings because the ratings aren't law.

    This bill ignores the ESRB ratings, at least as far as I can tell. It brings in statutory and judicial interpretations of what makes a game violent or immoral, instead of just referring to ESRB ratings.
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  4. Good news IMO.... I hope it passes. Stupid kids, they don't deserve the right to buy naughty games.

  5. Originally posted by EThugg
    Good news IMO.... I hope it passes. Stupid kids, they don't deserve the right to buy naughty games.
    So you'd rather have judges deciding what games are unfit for kids, rather than the ESRB? I heard that The Resident of Evil Creek wasn't as violent a game as that judge said.
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  6. Yes, I don't care. I'd make it illegal for anyone under the age of 15 to be a consumer in anyway, so this sure as fudge don't bother me.

  7. Originally posted by EThugg
    Good news IMO.... I hope it passes. Stupid kids, they don't deserve the right to buy naughty games.
    Hmmm....seems like we are going to have this argument all over again. Its not the stupid kids, its the stupid parents who let them buy the games or give them the money to buy the games.

    Also how games are not protected by the first amendment and music and art is makes no sence whatsoever.
    "If you aren't a bit depressed, then you aren't paying attention to what's going on in the world - Get busy living or get busy dieing."

  8. Originally posted by supermario
    Hmmm....seems like we are going to have this argument all over again. Its not the stupid kids, its the stupid parents who let them buy the games or give them the money to buy the games.
    So due to bad parenting, we unleash a bunch of little psychopaths into society to do as they want? Fuck that, and fuck you. The case for laws like this have made themeselves, if you're still too dense, tough shit. I'm not debating with a moron about this again.

    Also how games are not protected by the first amendment and music and art is makes no sence whatsoever.
    Kids can't buy porn, porn is just as much speech as games.

  9. Originally posted by EThugg


    So due to bad parenting, we unleash a bunch of little psychopaths into society to do as they want? Fuck that, and fuck you. The case for laws like this have made themeselves, if you're still too dense, tough shit. I'm not debating with a moron about this again.
    So your saying bad parenting is right? If parents would teach their kids whats right and wrong, there would be none of this. Also I dont want MY games toned downed because some asshole parents cannot raise their kid. Bad parenting should be illegal, not selling games to kids.

    Kids can't buy porn, porn is just as much speech as games.
    Ok, so you are telling me all the art, all the plot develpment, all the time it takes to make a video game, is NOT art? You make no sence whatsoever. Porn has nothing to do with this.

    One year ago you where this abnoxious thug who cursed and made fun of everyone who dissagreed with you and now your this old asshole who wants everything thats exciting done away with.
    "If you aren't a bit depressed, then you aren't paying attention to what's going on in the world - Get busy living or get busy dieing."

  10. Fuck that, and fuck you


    Anyways........the 'I PLAYED MORTAL KOMBAT WHEN I WAS A KID' argument isnt valid any more. Games like fear effect and GTA3 have much more explicit content.

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