ea on xbox live (officially announced 5-10-04)

[Melf]

Take it to fight club or let it rest. NOW.

[sphere79]

You retarded jewish monkey, they have had dedicated servers for almost every game for more than a year now. Shut the fuck up already, you don't know what you're talking about.

I don't want to step into the middle of this ( he says as he steps in the middle ), and trust me - I like Xbox Live - but none of the games I've played have had dedicated servers. I know they do host a few for some of the games, and some ( like PGR2 ) are set up in a way that requires a host to make settings changes, etc. We've argued with Master about this before ( who works for MS ), and he pretty much said it's not up to Microsoft to host servers. This is my only beef with Live, games like Wolfenstein need servers - and I'm paying a monthly fee ( yea, yea, Live stats and data management bla bla bla ) and they ARE MICROSOFT for chrissakes, they could get up off their wallet and put up some servers.

Yes people should bitch to MS, the problem is most people don't realize the games they are playing are peer-hosted, so they don't know to complain. There's nothing wrong with having peer-hosting either, I think it's good to have that option but for some games ( i.e. FPS's ) that could use dedicated servers there should be more of them.

[Mamoscott]

Maybe if you knew what you were taking about you would have seen the microsoft hosted dedicated servers for the games on live. There were always some around on Rainbow Six 3. You can host one yourself, that is true, but you can also find games hostd by Microsoft & (sometimes) the developer of the game when doing an optimatch search.

Really man, if you don't know what you are talking about, don't spout off nonsense.

So you mention one title out of 60+ playable on Live, and that's supposed to fix everything? I guess that makes up for all the Wolfensteins, Ghost Recons, Unreals, etc that were languishing on Live without dedicated servers for the past year-and-a-half or so, right? Or the constant delays of major Live releases like Halo 2, True Fantasy Live, and Fable (which has had its Live component scrapped now anyway)? Or the removal of Live play in the Xbox version of THUG and the cancellation of Xbox versions of games like Battlefield 1942 and Star Wars Galaxies? But if you're delusional like diffusionx apparently is, there's clearly nothing to complain about in regards to Live anymore and there's no way to improve the service.

The funny thing is that features such as dedicated servers were promised at the initial Live launch, and they're only now finding their way into some titles. You guys are so grateful just to get a few crumbs thrown your way that you'll completely ignore the fact that MS hasn't been providing the service they claimed they would be from the start, because hey, at least you're getting some of those features now - and that's better than what you were getting before.

Of course, you can rationalize this by saying "Microsoft is listening to complaints and correcting their mistakes," but then you're just overlooking the fact that they knew things like dedicated servers were a major selling point at the initial Live launch, yet MS failed to provide them as promised anyway - at least until the number of Live subscribers became stagnant for the past 6 months or so. Funny how that works, isn't it?

Even though Xbox Live is the best thing available for online play on consoles this gen, that doesn't make it perfect or even great. Maybe I just expect more from of a "premium" service. If this news turns out to be true, getting EA is definitely a huge step in the right direction though.

Please stop, you have no idea what you're talking about and you don't even have XBOXLive so you don't even know how it works.

Yes, there is absolutely no way I could have purchased one or more games bundled with a free Live trial or played online at a friend's place via his subscription or as a guest.

[Mzo]

Man, Xbox Live is so pimp.

Everyone should have it.

[Diff-chan]

Man, Xbox Live is so pimp.

Everyone should have it.

I believe this news.

Oh, and way to shit on Melf's request, Mamoscott. STFU already.

[Mamoscott]

Oh, and way to shit on Melf's request, Mamoscott. STFU already.

I haven't done any name-calling in this thread, and my previous post was typed up before Melf responded. So I didn't see his warning until after I had submitted. I have only been discussing Xbox Live, and I don't believe I have done anything to "shit on" his request. If he feels I have, he can let me know, as that is not my intent.

Besides, look near the top of the thread. Melf practically begged for me to respond. And I readily admit that getting EA's support is a MASSIVE step forward for the service. However, there are still plenty of other things about Live that MS needs to improve. And if you read sphere's post, you would see that I am not alone in thinking that.

[Roufuss]

I believe this news.

Oh, and way to shit on Melf's request, Mamoscott. STFU already.

They were so quick to ban all the other trolls, why the delay in banning Mamoscott, who obviously can't listen to a moderator's request?

Time to start abusing the "bad post" button.

[Dyne]

because this place never works the way its supposed to. the quicker you learn that, the happier you will be

[Adrian]

I'm not sure which is worse, the idiots that think that everyone should love Xbox Live as much as they do or Mamoscott... being Mamoscott. Both are as obnoxious and retarded as each other.

[Melf]

I haven't done any name-calling in this thread, and my previous post was typed up before Melf responded. So I didn't see his warning until after I had submitted. I have only been discussing Xbox Live, and I don't believe I have done anything to "shit on" his request. If he feels I have, he can let me know, as that is not my intent.

Actually, I was talking to Sl1p, not Mamo. Mamo behaved himself and didn't give in to the darkside, which is cool.

Besides, look near the top of the thread. Melf practically begged for me to respond.

I wanted you to step in to provide some heated debate, which you did. I may not agree with you on Live, but I love to read the arguments between both sides.