Fuck this word, and fuck you for using it.Originally Posted by Mfkzt
Don't forget how Bush slashed VA benefits to help fund his war in Iraq. I hate to say it, but we're going to be fucked no matter. We are cannon fodder in a game that only rich and powerful men can play. I say this being in the military and facing a tour in Iraq myself.Originally Posted by Gohron
It's funny how brave some of these computer chair chickenhawks can be from the safetly of their bedrooms.
Fuck this word, and fuck you for using it.Originally Posted by Mfkzt
Originally Posted by Mfkzt
But...you are in your computer chair right now? So you are different from use because of something YOU HAVE NOT EVEN DONE yet?
Also, Gohron is also going into the military if I recall correctly...
your mom
This sucks. Bush is a nimrod and I've said so from day one, but the way this is going down it's nothing to gloat about. That's a messed up situation and whether I was totally against it in the first place, you guys need to win this one. Might as well send more troops and get it done with. Because I think everybody realizes the consequences could be pretty serious if this doesn't work.
-Kyo
I've said the same thing a million times about this war, so I'm gonna say something a bit different. But first I have to agree with you on your right idea wrong president statement.Originally Posted by Stone
There must be a hundred different ways this war could have been a good thing, hell a thousand, and the fact is Bush did everything in his power to fuck it up.
You wanna know why I hate republicans. Because they never admit they did something wrong. Bush and his administration do not have the capacity to think like normal people. They do not have the capacity to see the big picture when it comes to, "The Big Plan" they always seem to have. They just don't.
Democrats are no day in the park either, don't get me wrong, but Jesus Christ this is fucking ridiculous.
All moral reasonss aside, you wanna know ultimately why it was a bad idea to go into Iraq? Because we are a democracy. Because this was going to take more than the two years left in Bush's term to fix. Because we have now tied the hands of the American people, the soldiers, and god let it happen please, the new president, with this bullshit. Because guys, by removing Saddam's regime from power in the middle of a war on terror, we have given the chance for the terrorists to take hold of the country entirely by spewing their lies and propaganda at a people who will not believe proof, only in those who share, and claim to share their belilefs.
For those who want to pull out of this, I have to say, we can't.
Its impossible now. They'd take that country from its people in a year and then shit would really hit the fan.
Thats why this war was a bad idea. You wanna take all moral issues and intention issues aside and look at practicallity, then simply due to TIMING this fucking war was a bad idea.
thats all.
Originally Posted by William Oldham
Why is this an isseu and the dragging of bodies in Faluyah is less of an iseu?Originally Posted by diffusionx
Simple really, from criminals you can expect criminal behaviour, the US came barging in and one of the reasons stated was to bring freedom back to the Iraqi people to stop torture and improve their lives yet waht do Iraqi´s see now, a thousand people dead by US fire in Faluyah, majority of wich were innocent civilians, they see their places of worship bombed and they see pictures of their fellow countrymen being tortured and humiliated.
From a a criminal you can expect criminal behaviour, the US was there to put an end to such behaviour and is now cought doing things wich they came there to end.
THAT is why its an isseu.
Oh btw nice job dragging in the UN into this again to fire of a few podshots at an easy target, regardles of the fact that the UN thing more and more starts to seem like a storm in a glass of water.
And where did I say I was outraged at the pictures?
I knew things like that were happening, its ineviteable.
When you have 150k people living in a stressfull situation against their will in a country they know jackshit about you will always have some dipshits who commit atrocities.
I mean how old are most of these people?
Like 20 to 24 years old?
Immature kids who cant handle the situation they have been forced into and deal with the bordeom and stress by acting like total asses.
Again I am not outraged, its just confirmation of what I expected, of what I knew what would happen, its simple human nature and statistics at work.
YAWA continues to amaze me. That is an incredibly succint and well written post. And I agree nearly 100%. I was against this war in Iraq from day one... but I know and agree that pulling out is really the last thing we should do at this point. If we allow the extremists to gain control of Iraq it'll be worse then when Saddam was there.Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy
You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.
In case you haven't noticed, I'm stridently anti-war. I leave the macho posturing to the cowardly chickenhawks who have given nothing to their country and are risking nothing by taking a pro-war stance. I figure the draft will shut them up after they vote Bush in for another 4 years this November.Originally Posted by Mman
I still don't understand how I get labeled a "cowardly-chickenhawk".Originally Posted by Mfkzt
That comment directed at other people in this thread, not you. You're actually going to serve your country.
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